(urth) Typhon's concessions

Marc Aramini marcaramini at gmail.com
Wed Sep 5 08:36:43 PDT 2018

I have several textual reasons to really not like part of the interview
with Jordan where Wolfe  goes all in on this previous cycle explanation.
One is the universe has Lewis Carroll (direct quotes!), Theseus, the
monitor and the Virginia, rudyard kipling, Marcus Aurelius, Christian
missionaries, a Catholic Church with Christ voided syncretized with
paganism, and most of all the key statement by isangoma that Agia and
Severian are the results of the choices we make now, the ghosts of the
future in a free universe. Also, in eschatology and genesis nod is told
when he looks for the children of Adam and Eve that he is 50,000 years or
so too late. Textually the emphasis on New Sun as our future is very
present in Shadow and I feel that it is Just as present in Long and Short
Sun with the statements about Allah and the unrecognizable figure of the
goddess of purity on green (Mary, for those Catholics out there).

Against that ... well, a flood. Time travel backwards exists in this world.
If the cycles are this similar why have more than one? I really don’t think
Jesus is absent at all in the solar cycle.

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>

> Actually I think of the Solar Cycle as a *previous* cycle of the Universe.
> This explains the "archaeological" approch in the BotNS afterwords, and I
> believe that Wolfe would say that in a Universe _after_ ours, no Fall would
> take place because Jesus.
> This also explains things like Baldanders/Frankenstein: Mary Shelley
> didn't premember Baldanders, it was a haunting from the previous Universe
> cycal.
> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
> When faced with two alternatives, I always like to choose the fourth.
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:14 PM <incanto at mtecom.net> wrote:
>> *I don’t know how much we want to insist that this scene has the same
>> theological implications as Christ’s human triumph over temptation*
>> Agree. I think GW used his Catholicism as a template but created the
>> Solar Cycle universe a "quarter turn" (who knows the exact geometry?)
>> further and into a fresh creation. Thanks for this dialog.
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