(urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years"
Jerry Friedman
jerry_friedman at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 11 09:46:16 PDT 2013
From: Jeffery Wilson jwilson at clueland.com
...
>>>> I think that a black hole, even as currently understood, would cool the
>>>> sun if it were significantly cooler than the temperature of the interior
>>>> of the sun. You can have some fun at
>>> <http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/>.
>>>
>>> It's really not fair to hold Wolfe to the standards of another 3-4 decades
>>> of theoretical physics.
>>
>> That's why I said "even as currently understood". I was just thinking about
>> what might happen with current physics, as I take it Gerry was too, not holding
>> Wolfe to anything.
>>
>>> We no longer have the expectation of transcending
>>> space and dimension as when the Book was being written.
>>
>> I don't remember that we did then--did we?
>
>A popular treatment in print was THE IRON SUN: ACROSS THE UNIVERSE WITH
>BLACK HOLES (ISBN 0525134905, 9780525134909). Disney did a film called
>THE BLACK HOLE, and Blue Oyster Cult had
> some airplay with "Heavy Metal, Black and Silver".
Oh, okay. I think that at the time, the theory that black holes might lead to other
universes (or other parts of this one), where they might be white holes, was
still current. I think the theory of black hole radiation, in which black holes and
white holes are the same thing, was also available (developed by Bekenstein
in 1972 and Hawking in 1974).
>>>> Wait, I thought the black beans grew into the sea monsters, which is why
>>>> the woman had to throw them into the sea (instead of just dropping them on
>>>> the ground) to make them effective. Robert Borski speculated along these
>>>> lines.
>>>>
>>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=HykyT4UQ9JMC&pg=PA93
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, it would make literary sense if whoever or whatever made the sun
>>>> cool also stopped plate tectonics (if it's stopped), and if the process
>>>> that fixed one also fixed the other.
>>>
>>> I think it's a stretch when she throws them on the *sun*'s grave.
>>
>> I'm not following. What's a stretch? What's the sun's grave?
>
>
>I'm thinking it's figurative reference like, "I feel like someone is
>walking on my grave."
Are you trying to frustrate me, or did I miss a post about "the sun's grave"? What's
a figurative reference like that line?
Jerry Friedman
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