(urth) fifth head owlet- wolf
marcaramini at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 30 10:04:44 PDT 2013
I become increasingly certain that most mysteries in Wolfe are engineering or mechanistic in their set up. If that relaxation principle is at all written into the text, the somewhat contorted quote highlights it. It implies non usage by stating usage, it has ambiguous antecedents, and at the end out speaker is not certain of who is who because it is a conflation of two different events.
So my theory of relaxation- primitive man emulated by ancestors of shadow children, shadow children imitated by the free people in a different world, then finally real people show up and another approximation may or may not be made that is indistinguishable from the " real" people/solution if Veil's hypothesis is true and Trenchard and the people of frenchman's landing are perfectly adapted Abos, an the other Abos are still not approximating humanity in any way. Trenchard the father is a man, whether he resulted from human stock or is last in a series of approximations.
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On Mar 30, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Can the object of a preposition be replaced by a pronoun? Sure. I think Wolfe intentionally uses ambiguous pronouns that way a lot.
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> On Mar 30, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The them pronoun is ambiguous in reference to the songs of the second people. In any case, the second people are changed by the first, who do use their hands to take. No reference is made if the second people use their hands or not, I don't think.
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>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 8:08 AM, "Gerry Quinn" <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote:
>>> From: Marc Aramini
>>>> But the star faring species in this passage did not use their hands.
>>> Read it again. It was the first people - the shape changers - who did not use them. Not the second people who came among them.
>>> - Gerry Quinn
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