(urth) fifth head owlet- wolf

[Marc Aramini]

I apologize, I can't spell this morning. Sea, fabric. I suppose I fancy the idea that the Shadow Children and Hill men are different because of a convergence of evolution rather than a divergence. (That the Hill People are something like ancient Shadow Children + native  St. Anne material, and that the Shadow Children are the degenerate remnants of man, instead of being two completely distinct species)

--- On Fri, 3/29/13, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) fifth head owlet- wolf
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Friday, March 29, 2013, 8:39 AM







or conversely, I suppose, are there no more humans on St. Anne, though it seems clear Trenchard can make tools (I still don't understand that whole aboriginal tool replica stuff, but their handiness with knots and ropes really does remind me of the mites that rise on little strands of fabriic, get blown out to see, and form giant mats of material, then kill workers by getting in their lungs - from the verbiage, I think this little mite is a native of St. Croix. If it were of St. Anne, I would posit that its eggs were in the leaves that the natives chew).


--- On Fri, 3/29/13, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) fifth head owlet- wolf
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Friday, March 29, 2013, 8:35 AM








--- On Fri, 3/29/13, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote:





From: Marc Aramini

> Originally the Shadow Children were saying they were from earth,
> more or less.

Yes.

> After the percentage shifts to a 1 to 1 ratio, they were
> saying they weren't sure if Sandwalker's people or the Shadow
> Children were "human".

Yes.  Even before that, with three Shadow Children left, the OWO becomes confused because "there are so many of you now and so few of us".

But there's plenty of independent evidence.  The Shadow Children know of things that the Hillmen and Marshmen do not.  They know of starcrossers and the bending of spacetime; they can point out Sol in the sky.

> Did their uncertainty just come because
> the ratio shifted - I was asking, in other words, if their original
> claim was more valid than the second claim, that the Old Wise
> One had made a mistake and Sandwalker was of human stock.

What logic would there be in such a reversal?  The whole concept of shape-shifting aborigines fails if the aborigines do not look like humans. Everything else we are told (such as the knowledge I noted above) has to be thrown out.

- Gerry Quinn

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Yes, I think you are right.  The only question then becomes, if the Shadow Children were once terrestrial, if Sandwalker is a completely distinct evolutionary tree (forgive the bad pun, mostly unintentional) from them, how can a human and non-terrestrially descended aborigine mate?  VRT is pretty clearly half human before he selects mimicking a full human.  He also dwells on Dollo's Law - that a species that evolved away from a trait won't get it back but would instead adopt  a new way of doing the same old thing.  
 
If his group is descended from the "Free People"/Sandwalker's genetic stock, then the question of viable mating between his mother and M. R.Trenchard comes up.  So if it is the Shadow Children who are of ancient Earthen stock, how can the Hill People/Marshmen mate with the supposed human of Irish extraction?  
 
Or are Hill People and Shadow Children just evolutionary branches of the same ancient peregrination?
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