(urth) fifth head owlet- wolf
dstockhoff at verizon.net
Tue Apr 2 06:03:53 PDT 2013
On 4/2/2013 9:01 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
> And the manner in which the shadow children "ride" the marsh men by attacking and holding their eyes and the doubled pupil of the thing Marsch shoots and the pits being the eye and other eye, as well as the statement that the star walker goes out one " eye" pit and into the "other eye" sure seems like it is an eye infection that leads to parasitic infection.
> So when the shadow children clothe themselves in glory, they are gestating in flesh. Any metaphors for eating their host? Wow.
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:16 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Yes, Gerry. An organizing principle must organize. You and Marc have been going back and forth about evolution/devolution and genetic stagnation and copies of copies and hosts and parasites (e.g., when one species infiltrates another) and what happens when vastly different species/minds meet one another, and you can't even make a broad guess at what it is that a "skin" joke might organize in this case? When Wolfe writes the same ideas over and over, repeating the same themes at wildly varying scales?
>> I'm proposing, without attempting to work it out very far because I haven't read the novellas in years, an explanation for a few odd descriptions that nothing else that has been brought up so far seems to explain. The proposal is based solidly on what Wolfe has done in the past.
>> That kind of post is what this forum is for, and at least partly what Marc's let's-see-what-sticks posts have been meant to inspire. I can't make sense of it myself, and neither can you. This forum is not just for stomping on anything you don't like. If you don't see something, just say you don't see it.
>> For all we know, the mites are the true, animating planetary intelligence, at least when they have bodies to infest. They'd be small enough to ride bubbles.
>> On 4/2/2013 6:23 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>>> From: David Stockhoff
>>>> Peritonitis, exactly. It need not have any meaning. It only needs to be an organizing principle.
>>> An organising principle must organise. What is organised by this storm of putative connections? [And 'odd' things that are not really odd at all? Can't a hungry girl falling asleep under a tree dream of a planet seen through the branches as a giant fruit?]
>>> 5HOC is not Peritonitis, in which there is an explicit disconnect between the description of the protagonist as a humanoid hero and as a microbe, which the reader is invited to make of what he will.
>>> - Gerry Quinn
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