(urth) Hard SF
Sergei SOLOVIEV
soloviev at irit.fr
Wed Nov 28 09:59:23 PST 2012
I had the same impression about sizes. If you find where it was said
that the Whorl is ten times
smaller than Blue I would be glad to know.
Sergei
Marc Aramini wrote:
> I figure they are more like Earth and Mars. Actually, the size of
> Blue is implied somewhere (ten times the size of the whorl in
> diameter?) I don't remember exactly where. I always wanted to go back
> and see how big it was, but I am sloppy about numbers in that way.
>
> --- On *Wed, 11/28/12, Sergei SOLOVIEV /<soloviev at irit.fr>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev at irit.fr>
> Subject: Re: (urth) Hard SF
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> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 9:23 AM
>
> About Blue and Green, I often asked myself what kind of orbit they
> have.
> Is it just like Earth and Moon, but
> with much greater eccentricity? And what are the relative sizes? It
> seems that gravity on Green is less.
>
> Another very exotic possibility is that they both orbit the Short Sun
> but come periodically very close.
> The conjunction has the period of several years! This seems not very
> compatible with the
> first variant, and may be an argument for the second.
> It is very exotic because such orbits would be normally not
> stable, but
> one can find some very
> exceptional particular "resonance" solutions when it remains
> stable for
> a relatively long time.
>
> Does the Whorl orbit the Short Sun or the Blue-Green system?
>
> Maybe this was already discussed?
>
> Sergei
>
> Daniel Petersen wrote:
> > That's a wonderful thought, Antonin! Is this feasible? (Both
> > generally and in the text?)
> >
> > -DOJP
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Antonin Scriabin
> > <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com
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> wrote:
> >
> > Do we have any idea just how close Blue and Green get during
> > conjunction? I seem to remember that from Blue, Green is
> more of
> > a spec than a moon, but perhaps they are close enough, or have
> > unusually expansive atmospheres, such that during conjunction
> > their atmospheres merge and allow the Inhumi to fly from one to
> > another. If they are this close though, they would most
> > definitely fall under the sway of one another's gravitational
> > field, which doesn't seem to be the case.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lee Berman
> > <severiansola at hotmail.com
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> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >David Stockhoff: We're not talking about hard SF here.
> >
> > Just for the sake of discussion, I'll disagree. Perhaps
> Wolfe
> > isn't diamond-hard
> > but I'd give him ruby- or sapphire- on the MOhs scale. I
> think
> > he makes a
> > sincere attempt in most of his work, as the quote below
> > illustrates.
> >
> > Where fantasy writers are content to give us shape changers
> > without explanation,
> > Wolfe provides us with a sponge cellular analogy for
> Tzadkiel
> > and flexible bones
> > and muscles, make-up and hypnotic abilities for Inhumi.
> >
> > If the Inhumi really fly through space I'd want more
> than the
> > skimpy evidence we
> > are provided (and less evidence for their lying nature).
> >
> > >Nick Gevers: Speaking as an engineer, how might the godling
> > be constructed so as to
> > >walk as a giant on land, where the undines [submarine
> > giantesses] cannot?
> >
> > >Gene Wolfe: There are a number of ways you could go. First,
> > get rid of the notion that
> > >the godling is going to be proportioned like a human being.
> > Changes in size always mean
> > >changes in build. (Dr. Crane touches on that.) A man fifty
> > feet tall, proportioned like
> > >you or me, would sink into the ground a lot -- had you
> > thought of that? Take a look at
> > >the really big dinosaurs. Bone density could be increased,
> > and the legs and pelvis made
> > >more massive, and so on
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