(urth) Sorcerer's House Comment
dstockhoff at verizon.net
Mon May 7 15:31:01 PDT 2012
I think I know that mountain. Legend says its summit stands unseen above
the clouds and may be reached by no man or woman.
I'll have to read NOVA; I find the Tarot interesting as the basis for an
On 5/7/2012 4:47 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:
> Tarot: Read a long time ago was NOVA by Samuel R. Delany. I just got a
> hardcover of the "first" edition (SFBC, long story as to why that is
> the hardcover). Much of the story revolves around the Tarot; I have
> not read this in years and will be putting it on Mount Tobereread.
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Darth Ed <darthed77 at gmail.com
> <mailto:darthed77 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On May 4, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote:
> > The book *is* dedicated effusively to Gaiman by Wolfe; it's not
> > unreasonable to think that Wolfe targeted it at Gaiman or simply
> > Gaiman some hints or something.
> I concur. That's my feeling as well.
> > I took a quick look at the first 6 or 7 chapters. I don't see any
> > obvious correspondence with the letter titles and the order given in
> > Wikipedia, but 'magician' does seem to align with the fish part
> of the
> > plot. Possibly the trumps are a skeleton key to figuring out the
> > unscrambled order of the letters? I don't remember anyone
> pointing out
> > any interesting problems with the ordering and giving a
> revealing true
> > ordering.
> I don't think the letters/chapters are out of order per se with
> regards to
> some canonical ordering of the Major Arcana and that we need to
> reorder the
> chapters/letters to fit that canonical ordering. In a Tarot
> reading, the
> cards are shuffled and the ordering of the cards is significant to the
> person who is being read by the reader. And I don't think the
> titles are
> necessarily related to the Major Arcana, but rather the principle
> characters and/or action that takes place in each letter/chapter
> can be
> matched to each of the Major Arcana. In that respect, I'm keen on
> Stockoff's interpretation which identified several such matches for a
> handful of the letters/chapters. He also incorporated the
> mirroring nicely
> into his interpretation. His identifications seemed quite
> reasonable to me,
> and I think further study is warranted and may come up with additional
> identifications between the letters/chapters and the Major Arcana.
> certainly be looking for such connection on my next reading of
> TSH, but I
> suspect that's probably years from now, unfortunately.
> In a sense, we, the readers of the book, are like the Tarot reader who
> reads the past, present, and future of a person/character. The
> cards/chapters represent the past and the present; the reader
> them and uses them to foretell the future of the person/character.
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