(urth) Jordan Interview
Sergei SOLOVIEV
soloviev at irit.fr
Sun Oct 23 08:51:37 PDT 2011
Just one remark:
> Why is the Outsider repeatedly and strongly characterized as a dark god?
The medieval Christian mystics (Meister Eckhart, Ruysbroeck) often told
that God
is "creative void" or "creative darkness" or even "creative
nothingness" - I am sure
Wolfe knows this very well. When Lee says "dark god" - I have an
impression -
he refers to modern mythology, where "dark" means "bad", "light" means
"good".
cheers
Sergei
Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
>
> *From:* Lee Berman <mailto:severiansola at hotmail.com>
>
> > I do think The Increate mentioned in BotNS might be the Judeo-Christian
> > god, Jaweh (or perhaps the God of the Trinity, which some consider
> to be
> > different than Jaweh).
>
> > On the other hand, I don't think The Pancreator is the Christian
> God, nor
> > the Outsider. They seem to be more along the lines of demiurge to me
>
> Why? Doesn’t PanCreator just mean ‘creator of all’ while Increate
> means ‘existing without having created’? Both are attributes of the
> Christian God (and the Muslim God, who is referenced in BotLS, so we
> know Islam existed in Urth’s past too). I think PanCreator and
> Increate both refer to the same monotheistic tradition, though it may
> well have evolved new scriptures and iconography.
>
>
> > For those who think The Outsider is meant to be our "one, true God"
> of all
> > universes I would pose a question:
> >
> > Why is the Outsider repeatedly and strongly characterized as a dark
> god?
>
> I don’t see that he is. What examples do you have in mind? Of course
> Silk does think of him as being linked to the darkness beyond the
> Whorl; but Silk is trapped in a decaying microcosm, and the only hope
> of salvation is to flee into that spangled darkness.
>
> The descriptions of the Outsider in the casts of characters at the
> start of the latter three books are interesting:
>
> Lake: the minor god who enlightened Silk.
> Calde: the god of the broken and disparaged, whose realm lies outside
> the Whorl
> Exodus: the god of gods
>
> Given that the writer is Wolfe, and taking into account other events
> such as Silk’s vision of Jesus, I don’t think this leaves very much
> room for doubt about the identity of the Outsider. (One might
> speculatively identify the three descriptions with the Persons of the
> Trinity, but that is not essential to the main reading.)
>
> - Gerry Quinn
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