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Antonin Scriabin
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Fri Oct 14 12:38:37 PDT 2011
So he is not so much a type of Christ, but a "type" of Redeemer / Savior.
One might as well say that Severian is a type of Krishna, or Zoroaster, or
any of the other historical figures that fit into the heroic savior
archetype.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:31 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:
> It may help to think of Sev as the kind of Christ who might appear to save
> the people of a really, really, bad, dark universe utterly cut off from its
> creator.
>
>
> On 10/14/2011 3:25 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:
>
>> I will look for them; I don't see enough to consider Severian to be a
>> parallel of Christ without really bending the definition / nature of Christ.
>> I guess this will eventually turn into a theological dispute as to the
>> nature of the biblical Christ!
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net<mailto:
>> dstockhoff at verizon.net**>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes. That's why Severian is not Christ.
>>
>> You'll find a fuller discussion (several of them) in the archives.
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2011 3:15 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:
>>
>> Christ was not flawed, divine, aware of his mission, his role,
>> and quite cognizant of his powers ... these seem like the
>> opposite of Severian?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM, David Stockhoff
>> <dstockhoff at verizon.net <mailto:dstockhoff at verizon.net**>
>> <mailto:dstockhoff at verizon.net
>>
>> <mailto:dstockhoff at verizon.net**>>> wrote:
>>
>> Bingo. That's why he's a Christ figure.
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2011 3:09 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:
>>
>> Rather, Severian seems a sort of perversion of what we
>> consider Christ-like and heroic; Severian is decidedly
>> flawed,
>> mundane, and unaware of himself in time, his role, and his
>> powers for the majority of the story.
>>
>>
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