(urth) Pike/Oreb

[larry miller]

Thats a great theory.  Can you explain the whole Fava thing to me
though?  I had no clue she was one of Bloods prostitutes.

On 11/9/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/2011 5:58 PM, Andrew Mason wrote:
>> Having now reread the pasage, I am still worried about Oreb. [...] But
>> Oreb is not actually with Pike; he flies out of the window some time
>> before Pike appears.
>
> It is true that we do not see "Pike" at the time, but Oreb's presence
> means that the Rajan is already nearby when Silk awakes. Probably in
> Pike's bedroom. If astral Oreb is there, astral Rajan is there.
>
>> And I remain unconvinced
>> that it is Oreb, Silk sees him at the moment of waking, in the dark,
>> through a curtain. In those circumstances he might mistake almost
>> anything that flies for Oreb. I don't think we've ruled out the
>> possibility that it's Quetzal.
>
> This is a modification of the "Silk didn't really get a good look at
> Pike" explanation. I think this causes the number of misidentifications
> to become cumbersome. I find it quite unlikely that Quetzal (flying
> serpent) could be mistaken for any bird, let alone a very specific bird.
> Here's the text:
>
> ++++++++++++++
> "He woke gaping for breath. The lights had extinguished themselves. In
> the faint skylight from a curtained window, he saw Oreb hop out and flap
> away. Mucor stood beside his bed, naked in the darkness and skeletally
> thin; he blinked; she faded to mist and was gone." Lake of the Long Sun,
> chapter 1.
> +++++++++++++++
>
> When he awakes he is immediately convinced that what he sees is Oreb.
> It's not "What is that hopping flying thing? Is that Oreb?" Only
> afterward does he decide it is illogical that what he saw Oreb since
> Oreb can't fly.
>
>> I also wonder what Mucor is doing there. We have _three_ ghostly
>> visitors to Silk's house; one feels there should be a connection
>> between them. Silk later speculates that Mucor summoned Pike, though
>> he's very likely wrong. In any case, I don't see how Mucor can be
>> fitted into the time-travel story.
>
> At other times, we see Mucor appearing in mirrors and possessing people.
> I *think* this is the only time we see her appearing in astral form,
> disappearing in a mist.  I propose that the Mucor Silk sees here is
> ***Mucor from Blue,*** on her mission to find Silk. The Silk she finds
> is the Rajan in astral time travel. It is he who tells her:
>
> ++++++++++++++++
> "'He asked me not to tell you where he is. It will be very dangerous for
> you to try to go where he is. If you find him, it will be dangerous for
> him, and for Hyacinth as well.' This was said without any expression, as
> Mucor always spoke; but it seemed to me that there was a spark of
> concern in her eyes, which were usually so empty. "OBW, chapter 4
> +++++++++++++++++
>
> The concern is her knowledge (having conversed with the Rajan) that
> something very strange is going to happen to Horn and Silk, although she
> might not be exactly clear on what.
>
> How this is dangerous for Horn is that if he continues his journey, is
> that he will die on the floating island and his body will be destroyed
> on Green. How it is dangerous for Silk relates to all the events that
> happened to Silk after he killed himself in front of Hyacinth's casket
> and even before which are certainly helped along by the Rajan.
>
> Dangerous for Hy? It could be that the answer is tied up in her
> confabulation with Mucor and Seawrack. Personally, I believe it is
> because he knows that as events unfold, the inhuma Fava will die, become
> trapped in dreams, rescued and set free in the Whorl only to become a
> prostitute for Blood, and all the other dangerous events that will
> transpire up to her death--starting with Neighbor-Horn becoming Silk and
> returning to Blue. This is a story with no clear beginning, middle, or end.
>
> Otherwise, it is never made clear how Silk though Horn coming to where
> he was was dangerous for any of them. Silk was not under any threat from
> the Vironese or Trivigaunte government.
>
> J.
>
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