(urth) Pike's Ghost

[David Stockhoff]

Ah, good. I'm actually a bit disappointed to hear that, because I always 
found the combination of the word "vat" to be chilling in the context of 
growing cloned humans. I thought of dank, dark tubs.

Yes, Typhon would have tried that.

On 11/28/2011 7:20 PM, Larry Miller wrote:
> Yeah thats interesting for sure.  I agree with David though. Someone
> tried to grow a human being.  The question is who that someone is.
> Typhon is a logical choice.  By the way the Axolotl Tanks are revealed
> to be the bodies of Tleilaxu females so the vats are wombs. Sorry big
> Dune fan so I had to chime in on that.
>
> On 11/28/11, David Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net>  wrote:
>> On 11/28/2011 6:43 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>>> From: Lee Berman severiansola at hotmail.com
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Leaving the question of Typhon's alien nature aside for now, the
>>>> Mandragora
>>>> seems
>>>> almost indisputable proof of Typhon's potential to be cloned or
>>>> downloaded
>>>> into a
>>>> new body in some manner. There is nothing dragon-like about the fetus in
>>>> the
>>>> bottle.
>>>> What possible reason is there for Wolfe to call it "Mandragora" if not
>>>> to refer to
>>>> Typhon, the only other reference to a man-dragon there is.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Oddly enough, a possible answer is at Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> "Some alchemists, impressed by this idea, speculated on the culture of the
>>> mandragore, and experimented in the artificial reproduction of a soil
>>> sufficiently fruitful and a sun sufficiently active to humanise the said
>>> root, and thus create men without the concurrence of the female."  A
>>> Wikipedia editor has added, "(See: Homunculus)."
>>>
>>>>  From /Transcendental Magic: Its Doctrine and Ritual/ by Éliphas Lévi,
>>>> translated by Arthur Edward Waite.  The book is at
>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=e0GcOrh-xNAC&pg=PA323
>>>
>>> There's a little more on plant-animal hybridization in the full passage,
>>> and perhaps people will find other points of interest.
>>>
>>> So this may be saying that someone has taken a mandrake root and humanized
>>> it, creating a homunculus.
>>>
>>> No doubt there's much more to say about this, but this margin is too
>>> small.
>>>
>>> Jerry Friedman
>> Awesome. My guess is that it indicates someone tried to grow a human in
>> a vat, as in Dune, vs surgically placing it in a womb, as done by Blood.
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