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Larry Miller decanus1284 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 19 15:58:36 PST 2011


Thanks Jeff.  Just a random thought that occured to me this morning.
Ive been really concerned with exactly how Horn/Silk takes a part
("though not a leading part" as stated by Wolfe) in the Hieros plans
to transform the human race into the Yesodis.  Ive been racking my
brain for more connections between the books.  Do you have any
thoughts?

On 11/19/11, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 8:43 AM, Larry Miller wrote:
>> If I remember right isnt there a point in Urth of New Sun where
>> Severian goes inside the planet of Yesod in something akin to an
>> elevator?
>
> An open platform that descends, yes.
>
>> As ridiculous as it may sound is it possible that the
>> planet of Yesod could be the Whorl after its departure from the
>> Blue/Green system?
>
> There is no particular thickness of natural rock visible inside the
> machine planet, only human-like figures and mobile machines tending
> stationary machines. Apheta claims it was created from Yesod's
> white-hole energy and matter for Yesodi settlement. There is also the
> statement and the appearance that the machine planet is Urth-size or
> larger, and massive enough to produce earth-like conditions on its
> exterior.
>
> It might be barely possible that the Hierogrammates escaped from Briah
> in a previous iteration of the Whorl, and some of that materials was
> incorporated into the machine planet, but IIRC that occasion was untold
> billions of years in future time, when the universal expansion had
> separated galaxies from one another. The Whorl might still exist then as
> an asteroid, but it is unlikely the accomodations would be useful or
> reognizeable after that time.
>
>
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