(urth) Pike's ghost

[Larry Miller]

I just want to know where the one year figure comes in.  Where does it
say that?

On 11/27/11, Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev at irit.fr> wrote:
> What age have the children of Typhon? He had to send the Whorl the year
> before the end of his rule - the year between the operation (grafting)
> and rebellions.
>
> Sergei Soloviev
>
> Larry Miller wrote:
>> Where does it say when Typhon was grafted to Piaton?  And not to be a
>> smart ass but since when is a year not enough time to have children.
>> Besides even if Piaton did not father children through sexual
>> relations there is still artificial insemination, cloning, etc.  Maybe
>> his children began life as embryos.  There is that comment to Severian
>> that he was not born as we might think it.  Perhaps it was the same
>> for his children.
>>
>> On 11/27/11, Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev at irit.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> It is said that the head of Typhon was grafted to Piaton's body about
>>> one
>>> year before the fall of his empire! It had no time to take control
>>> (it is said in the Sword of the Lictor, and in UotNS Severian meets
>>> Typhon trying to recover after his operation). Not enough time to make
>>> children!
>>>
>>> Sergei Soloviev
>>>
>>> Larry Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes but Typhon seems to have done the opposite of those such as
>>>> Baldanders.  He began as a monster that transformed himself into a
>>>> human so that he could rule over humans.   Him being able to breed
>>>> with humans  may be another reason why he undertook such a transplant.
>>>>  Maybe Piaton is biologically the father of his children (we know that
>>>> his sexual organs are still functional because of him "nursing his
>>>> erection")?
>>>>
>>>> On 11/27/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Larry Miller
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Severian sees him as a "man" because Piaton is a human.  Typhons head
>>>>>> however may closely resemble a human or might even be the head of
>>>>>> another human body he possessed so that could explain why Severian
>>>>>> doesnt remark upon any alien characteristics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t see much reason to think he is non-human, though he may be an
>>>>> off-world human.  Sure, he doesn’t have a saint’s name, but then again
>>>>> he
>>>>> made himself into a monster of sorts (Baldanders may have done the
>>>>> same).
>>>>> His family appear to be human, and Cilinia, the only other of his
>>>>> family
>>>>> to
>>>>> be named, bears a saint’s name.  He’s apparently human enough to breed
>>>>> with
>>>>> humans.  And nobody suggests he is not human AFAIK.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> His psychic abilities
>>>>>> (if he does possess any) seem to be quite different than Decuman who
>>>>>> IIRC is the only other human who has any mental powers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think Decuman was merely the most powerful sorceror in his group, not
>>>>> the
>>>>> only one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> His comment
>>>>>> about sending his thoughts seem much more in common with the astral
>>>>>> travel done by the Inhumi and the Neighbors who are not human.  It
>>>>>> seems Typhon engineered abilities akin to his into humans (as in the
>>>>>> case of Mucor) later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I still reckon he is just referring to communications technology here.
>>>>> - Gerry Quinn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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