(urth) Pike's ghost

Larry Miller decanus1284 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 27 14:22:40 PST 2011


Where does it say when Typhon was grafted to Piaton?  And not to be a
smart ass but since when is a year not enough time to have children.
Besides even if Piaton did not father children through sexual
relations there is still artificial insemination, cloning, etc.  Maybe
his children began life as embryos.  There is that comment to Severian
that he was not born as we might think it.  Perhaps it was the same
for his children.

On 11/27/11, Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev at irit.fr> wrote:
> It is said that the head of Typhon was grafted to Piaton's body about  one
> year before the fall of his empire! It had no time to take control
> (it is said in the Sword of the Lictor, and in UotNS Severian meets
> Typhon trying to recover after his operation). Not enough time to make
> children!
>
> Sergei Soloviev
>
> Larry Miller wrote:
>> Yes but Typhon seems to have done the opposite of those such as
>> Baldanders.  He began as a monster that transformed himself into a
>> human so that he could rule over humans.   Him being able to breed
>> with humans  may be another reason why he undertook such a transplant.
>>  Maybe Piaton is biologically the father of his children (we know that
>> his sexual organs are still functional because of him "nursing his
>> erection")?
>>
>> On 11/27/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Larry Miller
>>>
>>>
>>>> Severian sees him as a "man" because Piaton is a human.  Typhons head
>>>> however may closely resemble a human or might even be the head of
>>>> another human body he possessed so that could explain why Severian
>>>> doesnt remark upon any alien characteristics.
>>>>
>>> I don’t see much reason to think he is non-human, though he may be an
>>> off-world human.  Sure, he doesn’t have a saint’s name, but then again he
>>> made himself into a monster of sorts (Baldanders may have done the same).
>>> His family appear to be human, and Cilinia, the only other of his family
>>> to
>>> be named, bears a saint’s name.  He’s apparently human enough to breed
>>> with
>>> humans.  And nobody suggests he is not human AFAIK.
>>>
>>>> His psychic abilities
>>>> (if he does possess any) seem to be quite different than Decuman who
>>>> IIRC is the only other human who has any mental powers.
>>>>
>>> I think Decuman was merely the most powerful sorceror in his group, not
>>> the
>>> only one.
>>>
>>>> His comment
>>>> about sending his thoughts seem much more in common with the astral
>>>> travel done by the Inhumi and the Neighbors who are not human.  It
>>>> seems Typhon engineered abilities akin to his into humans (as in the
>>>> case of Mucor) later.
>>>>
>>> I still reckon he is just referring to communications technology here.
>>> - Gerry Quinn
>>>
>>>
>>>
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