(urth) do the Hierogrammates *care* about the megatherians?
Sergei SOLOVIEV
soloviev at irit.fr
Sun May 22 09:14:15 PDT 2011
There are obviously also the elements of "Jungle Book" by Kipling, the
story of
"man cub" Mowgli <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowgli> who is raised by
wolves in the Indian jungle -
Sergei
Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> From: Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie>
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>> There are some interesting bits in regard to the name of Frog, incidentally.
>> Early we are told how he got his name:
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>> Because they had been found in the water, the boys were named Fish and Frog
>> ....
>> "I shall call him Frog," said the she-wolf. "For indeed the Butcher angled for
>> frogs, as you said, O my husband." She believed that she said this in
>> compliment to the he-wolf, because he had so readily acquiesced to her wishes;
>> but the truth was that the blood of the people of the mountaintop beyond Urth
>> ran in Frog, and the names of those who bear the blood cannot be concealed for
>> long.
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>> Just like the story of the Student, it's a mash-up of ancient and more recent
>> mythology (somebody noted on some board, perhaps correctly, that the Student
>> also includes the Battle of Hampton Roads, with the Minotaur becoming the
>> Moniter), combined with added stories by Wolfe, and futuristic technological
>> trappings. The idea is that the tales mutate and pick up elements of the
>> time(s) when they are re-told.
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> I trust somebody has mentioned Lovecraft's "Shadow Over Innsmouth", with its
> "fish-frog" creatures from under the ocean who mate with people and whose blood
> eventually reveals itself (though I don't think their names do). They worship
> Cthulhu, who's from "the stars", though I don't think it's clear whether the
> fish-frogs themselves are native to Earth or another planet.
>
> James> > Obviously, ambiguity is built into Wolfe's novels. There's no false
> positive test. I'm pretty comfortable that I'm right about this. Maybe I should
> get serious about locating Fish.
>
>> Remus, obviously.
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> Which brings us, appropriately or not, to the Tar Baby.
>
> Jerry Friedman
>
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