(urth) the pelagic argosy sights the new sun

DAVID STOCKHOFF dstockhoff at verizon.net
Wed Feb 9 11:00:29 PST 2011


You may be right, and these ideas are largely signs of an engineer's critique of the world. Of course, by the same token they may not be truly serious.

--- On Wed, 2/9/11, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>
> Subject: (urth) the pelagic argosy sights the new sun
> To: urth at lists.urth.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 12:55 PM
> 
> 
> >Marc Aramini: Green things die that men may live, and
> MEN DIE THAT GREEN THINGS MAY LIVE
>  
> It seems clear that the New Sun and its killing of humanity
> so that green things (even a green man)
> may live is presaged here. The pelagic, watery, fish stuff
> combined with the green stuff makes it
> clear that Wolfe is trying to get at something in BotNS
> that he more fully fleshes out in Short Sun
> with Blue and Green. 
>  
> As Severian is alone in the mountains above Thrax he
> ponders ideal worlds. Two of the principles he
> considers as ideal seem to be a population of people all
> brothers because they are derived from the 
> same two ancestors (or something like that). And also
> vegetarianism. I think Wolfe's values may have
> mutated a bit in the 20 years between BotNS and Short Sun.
> But death of humanity, blue water and green 
> plants seem to persist as themes. (and for me, it is
> difficult to find the basics of Christianity there).
>  
> Natural trees being higher than man-made masts seems to
> suggest the idea that our current humanity is an 
> artificial, flawed, imperfect (perhaps corrupted?) species.
> Perhaps one that needs to be replaced. Such 
> a philosophy doesn't seem too crazy for the 70's in
> America.    
>  



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