(urth) First Exodus theory revised
António Pedro Marques
entonio at gmail.com
Thu Feb 10 18:07:02 PST 2011
Gerry Quinn wrote:
> From: "António Pedro Marques" <entonio at gmail.com>
>> Marc Aramini wrote:
>>> A real quick point I wanted to make. Typhon is definitely, to Severian,
>>> a personal tempter, analagous to the devil. However, I think the ACT of
>>> creating a world so painstakingly gave Pas a real love for his creation,
>>> one similar to the Outsider's. So by pretending to be God, he came to
>>> care and love his creation. This is ultimately why, as far as the whorl
>>> is concerned, I think Pas' plan, "endorsed by the Outsider", is not one
>>> of violent take over (like, say producing an heir and then taking away
>>> his free-will) but one, like any parent, of benevolence and pride :
>>> "Look, at my great creation, my beautiful heir!" This is why I think
>>> Silk was meant to BE free, not a puppet of Typhon besides working in
>>> conjunction with his rather benevolent plan for his worshipers. Even
>>> sinners love those who love them, and this transformed Pas into
>>> something almost good.
>> I should again point out that regardless of Pas having been scanned
>> from Typhon, all he is is a computer program. Pas is Typhon's tool and
>> in all likelihood Typhon doesn't care one bit about Pas as long as Pas
>> fulfills his role. He should care more about his heir(s), who is/are
>> (a) real person(s). So Pas is there to serve Silk, not the opposite,
>> and Silk is either a true heir or a tenant (for Typhon, not Pas).
> Computer programs are real people in this story (and in most of Wolfe's
Not really. Robots are people, and you could *argue* that means the software
running them is people. But all over, 'real people' don't consider robots
'real people'. Silk does because he's Silk. Typhon doesn't.
> Also, surely if Silk is to be a tenant, it is Pas who will move in?
A viceroy for Typhon, who would one day come to (or pass by) Blue as a
ruler. If he hadn't died in the meantime.
> [Also, I think Wolfe is on record as saying Pas *is* Typhon.]
Pas is Typhon, Typhon isn't Pas.
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