(urth) S&S vs. SF in BotNS

entonio at gmail.com entonio at gmail.com
Sat Dec 24 23:47:24 PST 2011


No dia 25 de Dez de 2011, às 06:14, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> escreveu:

> On 12/24/2011 4:11 AM, entonio at gmail.com wrote:
>> No dia 24 de Dez de 2011, às 08:29, Jeff Wilson<jwilson at clueland.com>  escreveu:
>> 
>>> On 12/23/2011 10:26 AM, António Pedro Marques wrote:
>>>> But that is not a photo as is commonly understood,
>>>> which involves reflection, nor of 'an electron', nor is it a photo in a
>>>> sense that would constitue autonomous evidence for the reality of
>>>> electrons, though it may be corroborating of the model.
>>> 
>>> How are the sun and other luminous objects photographed then, sans refelction?
>> 
>> That's grasping at straws and you know it.
> 
> Sunlight comes from the luminous gas that makes up the solar photosphere. And from what part of an atom of that luminous gas does that luminosity emanate?
> 
> 
> The electrons. When you look at the sun, you're seeing light given off by electrons shifting from higher to lower energy states.
> 
> Along the way, that light encounters electrons of the atoms in the atmosphere and undergoes some refraction.
> 
> And even when it does illuminate non-luminous, opaque materials here on earth. what is the light reflecting from? The nucleus of each atom?
> 
> Light is reflected by electrons. While it's unusual and difficult to see the light emitted from a single electron, it's also unusual to encounter light the doesn't come from, through, or bounce off of, electrons. And the receptive cells in your eye, with chemicals that absorb light? Yup, they do it with electrons.
> 
> It's electrons all the way down, and you know it.

I also know that has no relevance for the matter at hand. Letters are composed of strokes. That doesn't mean you can determine the phonetic value of a given stroke.
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