(urth) Drotte-Roche mixup
David Stockhoff
dstockhoff at verizon.net
Tue Apr 19 15:54:47 PDT 2011
Diabetes is perhaps a more likely disease than leprosy (and Betel was
fat), but it tends to strike the lower limbs before the hands. I suppose
if Rose had access to legs, no one would have known she had a problem at
all ... you'd think the hands would have been replaced much later, but
she was 40 when she lost one arm.
I suspect that Betel was diabetic but Rose had another condition.
On 4/19/2011 12:48 PM, James Wynn wrote:
> I'm glad it helped, David.
>
> My answers to a lot of your questions are implied by my explanation at
> the link I gave.
>
> I'll take a shot a few of them anyway.
>
> 1) I believe we are tipped about origins of some of the chem's souls.
> I think Sand for example is Typhon himself. I think that is the source
> of Silk's speculation in Blood's house about he and Sand being
> "brothers" in some broader Outsider's world. I think Silk and Sand
> being --in a way-- Typhon is why they were key to resurrecting him. If
> you buy that Mamelta was the original Kypris then she is a good
> candidate for Marble (if you accept this, then there are references
> that will buttress that Mamelta/Kypris was the mother of the original
> Silk).
>
> If one accepts that Auk is also a clone, then there are references to
> argue that Auk/Hammerstone are sort-of twins in a similar way that
> Silk and Sand are twins.
>
> 2) It is theoretically possible for Mamelta be possessed by the
> Marble's scan. The possibility is suggested by the ability of Whorl
> gods to possess bios. It is simpler to just say that Kypris is a scan
> of Mamelta.
>
> 3) There is no reason that a single scan could not be used for
> multiple chems. That would be more efficient.
>
> 4) I do not believe Betel was a chem. For my answer to that and as for
> where the hands came from, see the link.
>
> On 4/19/2011 11:21 AM, DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote:
>> Great explanation, James. I also appreciate the discussion of the
>> nature of chems---it explains half a dozen minor mysteries, not just
>> one. And raises new ones for me:
>>
>> Were Mamelta and Marble bio and chem versions of the same thing?
>> empty vessels filled with stored souls with only the vaguest memories
>> of Urth? Or did Typhon take existing brainwiped bios and put some in
>> the Whorl and others into storage? What was (who were?) the source of
>> chem personalities? can personalities be reproduced like an mp3 file,
>> or is it only 1 per body?
>>
>> And you must be right about leprosy. It's about the only thing I can
>> think of that would cause a sibyl to lose a hand and certainly the
>> only disease. Maybe syphilis, but that's unlikely for a sibyl---or is
>> it?
>>
>> Either one would tend to shorten a life span, when we know Rose was
>> old (or was that merely my impression based on her hands?), and then
>> there is the question of how either would ultimately be cured in a
>> world where either would be a problem in the first place. I guess
>> preemptive amputation might stop leprosy. Maybe sometimes it just stops.
>>
>> More new mysteries: did Betel and Rose therefore have the same
>> disease? or was Betel a chem? If she was a chem, why was she made old?
>>
>> if not, what chem did the hands come from? Were all female chems made
>> to look human? Were some made to look old? Were the first sibyls chem
>> crones? How does one get to be a sibyl anyway--can you have a
>> shameful past life?
>>
>> I think Rose would have been quite happy to accept crone arms, and as
>> a sibyl she is supposed to be uninterested in the vanities of flesh
>> anyway.
>>
>
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