(urth) The Pelerine (COTA 12)

DAVID STOCKHOFF dstockhoff at verizon.net
Mon Sep 13 08:20:25 PDT 2010

The Vironese naming system may have been made up by Typhon's people, or it may have been a relic of another time unfamiliar to us but just as "real" as Dutch, or both (i.e., the Whorl is not in our future at all but in the future of a similar universe). It may have been used on another planet (recall that Typhon ruled many).
Or the similarity to things familiar to us is an artifact of translation.
But if we follow the logic here, I'd guess that somewhere, sometime in Briah, such a system was used.

--- On Mon, 9/13/10, Mr Thalassocrat <thalassocrat08 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mr Thalassocrat <thalassocrat08 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) The Pelerine (COTA 12)
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 9:29 AM

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Andrew Mason <andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com> wrote:

I do think Cyriaca's story is quite important, by the way, because it
explains why, though the physical distance between our time and

Severian's is enormous, the cultural distance at times seems strangely
small.  The various bits of cultural inheritance haven't been handed
down continuously; they were returned to humans by computers just a

few thousand years before Severian.

... and then the knowledge was collected by Typhon, perhaps, in the library. This is an observation which might also help to explain some of seeming anachronisms between BOTNS and SS/LS. Languages and writings from "our" time are present on the Whorl not because they were current in Typhon's day, but because Typhon's cultural archeaologists put them there, 

They didn't mine the past just for the Chras Writings etc, but for whole chunks of language and culture. So eg the "Dorp culture" doesn't indicate some totally unlikley survival of things Dutch into the deep future, but rather an artificial reconstruction of deep-past Dutchness by the Whorl project team.

I like this; it has the right whiff of megalomania. 
Perhaps every town culture on the Whorl was just a megalo-whimsical museum reconstruction by the Whorl team, having no roots at all in the Urth of Typhon's day. 
Viron's odd naming convention was just something they made up. 
Pity the poor sleepers!

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