(urth) Uberproper Use of Subject Lines

[Fred Kiesche]

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On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Lane Haygood <lhaygood at gmail.com> wrote:

> Something is enforced if there is a penalty for failure to comply.
> You are still free (in terms of will and capacity) to not comply; you
> must merely suffer the consequences.
>
> Let me put it another way:  you are free to disobey the law, id est,
> to commit a crime.  You must, however, "do the time" if you have "done
> the crime," as the cliche goes.
>
> You may voluntarily comport yourself with dignity and class.  You may
> of course also fail to do so and be a boor.  That is your prerogative,
> and none shall gainsay you your boorishness, for while it may be
> against the mores of good taste, one may not enforce good manners.
>
> One voluntarily enforces, therefore, a sense of good character in how
> one comports onesself if one self-legislates a moraltiy consistent
> with civility, pace Kant.  You must act at all times as if the maxim
> of your actions could be willed as universal law.  Therefore, though
> you may not be subject to compulsion to play nicely, it is eminently
> rational and proper for you to compel yourself to do so, should some
> base nature suggest otherwise.
>
> yvt,
> Lane
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:29 AM,  <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
> > It's not, though.
> >
> > It is a contradiction in terms.
> >
> > It verges on newspeak.
> >
> > Something that is voluntary is done of one's free will.
> >
> > Something that is enforced is done will ye or nil ye.
> >
> > So what is something that is voluntarily enforced?
> >
> > You either want something to be done voluntarily, or you want it to be
> > enforced.
> >
> > You can't have it both ways.
> >
> > .
>  >
> >> Perhaps it would help if I explained that "voluntary enforcement" is a
> >> fancy way of saying "civilized behavior."
> >>
> >> Probably not, though.
> >>
> >> --Dan'l
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:15 AM,  <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
> >>> L'audace! Encore l'audace!
> >>> Toujours l'audace!
> >>>
> >>> -- Danton
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You misunderstood what I mean by "voluntarily enforced." I do _not_
> >>>> mean universal citizen policing (which is a Bad Thing). Rather, I mean
> >>>> a situation in which people voluntarily act in a disciplined manner.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:15 AM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> But then we have to endure threads on the rules of good subject
> lines.
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> think it is better to keep the list in line by modeling good behavior
> >>>>> rather
> >>>>> having self-appointed cops. Ever live in a neighborhood with
> extensive
> >>>>> homeowner codes and have to live next to the lady who memorized them?
> >>>>> Ever
> >>>>> had someone yell at you because your Yorkshire Terrier, walking at
> >>>>> your
> >>>>> feet, is not on a leash? ("It's the LAW!")
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/24/2010 10:04 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Discipline, voluntarily enforced, is a Good Thing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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