(urth) started my second read of New Sun

Jerry Friedman jerry_friedman at yahoo.com
Sat May 15 20:47:26 PDT 2010

Gurloes doesn't use the powder and the dildo that we see (as far as I remember).  He just has them in case he needs them, but in the situation Severian mentions, Gurloes manages without them.

He has a job where he's sometimes required to rape people.  I think any way he deals with that has to be creepy--except quitting, which probably wouldn't work out well for him, especially since nobody's looking after his destiny.

Jerry Friedman

From: aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com>
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Actually, Palaemon gave Severian Terminus Est and advice about his journey to Thrax.  When he is doing this, he becomes confused and tells Severian the wrong direction, which made me think that Palaemon had gone South ( whereas Sev is sent North) himself as a younger man.  Gurloes is the strange and slighty creepy master who uses the powder and the metal phallus.  Umm, what a weirdo.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Lane Haygood <lhaygood at gmail.com> wrote:

>It seems unlikely to me that the Guild would have set up a test for
>>Severian where someone was killed needlessly; they abstain from unjust
>>and unnecessary violence.  I think perhaps Gurloes has some idea of
>>Severian's greater destiny (b/c it is Gurloes that gives him TE and
>>sends him out into the world with the hint that he might one day
>>return) and might be in on some plot to put Severian on the Phoenix
>>Throne, but... and this is the big problem with this theory... if you
>>were hinging the hopes of your entire planet on surreptitiously
>>guiding a young man to the throne so that he might travel to Yesod and
>>complete the trial, why expose him to the dangers inherent in the
>>journey itself?
>>One could argue that Severian's life is a series of Dickensian
>>coincidences machinated by powers beyond his knowledge to fulfill a
>>certain role, but if those powers are as truly omnipotent as such a
>>scheme would suggest, why the rigmarole of the New Sun at all?
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