(urth) Wall of Nessus

David Stockhoff dstockhoff at verizon.net
Wed Jun 16 04:28:44 PDT 2010


So it's truly a Big Object.

But how Dumb is it? That's the question ...

Ryan Dunn wrote:
> Mmm. A sooty drumstick sounds delicious. So does an ice cream drumstick.
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> Sorry to bounce back for a moment here, but...
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> I've always felt the wall, as described in UotNS, was quite implausible as well.
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> Using UotNS's quote as canon, Wall of Nessus = 9 miles high by 9,000 miles long.
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> The stratosphere is about 12 miles up. So 9 miles up is consistent with birds not being able to fly over it (highest bird flight on Earth was a vulture recorded at 7 miles up), but makes for a really hard sell visually.
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> Also, at 9,000 miles in length, if the Wall were unwrapped it would encompass more than 1/3 of our Earth at the equator.
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> Another reference... the entirety of Texas's border equals only 3,800 miles.
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> And here's the quote, which was referenced earlier...
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> "...just as that smallest and uppermost sail was an entire continent of silver, compared to which the mighty Wall of Nessus, a few leagues in height and a few thousand long, might have been the tumbledown fence of a sheepfold..." (Urth of the New Sun, Chap. XIV "The End of the Universe")
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> ...ryan
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> On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:38 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
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>> On 6/15/2010 1:42 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
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>>>> Then again , there are some number of hungry folk who come into possession of energy weapons in the course of any number of wars,
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>>> There's more than one war?
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>> Between the Age of Myth and Severian's time? Probably at least 2-3.
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>>>> and their line-of-sight range may indeed make high flight a survival liability.
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>>> I don't think high flight would ever be a liability for waterfowl.  It just wouldn't help anywhere near as much against energy weapons as against bows.
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>> It's the same math as the wall's height vs sight distance; the higher they fly, the more acres of hungry infantrymen, impoverished dimarchi, or mounted dwarves can draw a bead on them.
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>>> It's not clear to me that the poor could recharge ex-military energy weapons enough to use for much hunting, or that the weapons would leave much edible meat on a bird.
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>> There seem to be any number of places where still-running machinery indicates the presence of electrical power, assuming the weapons require it. Meanwhile, the low edible yield encourages more to be killed to produce a given amount of food, and even a sooty drumstick is a feast to someone who hasn't eaten in days. Besides, they might be anpiels posing as geese while spying for the enemy.
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