(urth) Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe")

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> Because Wolfe is also playing with the notions of an anti-Christ or
> demiurge.  Falsity and pretence to authority are pretty key parts of those
> notions.  (And frankly Pas is a lot more demiurge than anti-Christ.)
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:29 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, the concept of  needing to confess to a priest as a path to
>> absolution is pretty Catholic, I'd think.
>> If Wolfe only wanted to play with familiar motifs, why include the plot
>> element that the Chapter was founded as a parody of another specific
>> religion?
>>
>>
>>  Well, no, obviously not...I guess what I'm asking is, do that parallels
>> between the Chapter and the Catholic Church rise to the level that
>> within
>> the fictive universe there must be a cause-and-effect relationship
>> between
>> them, or can they be interpretted as merely have a metafictive causal
>> relationship, i.e., the author is a Catholic with something to say and
>> playing around with ideas that are familiar to him?
>>
>>
>>
>>  You could just as well ask "How Catholic is the Catholic Church?"
>>> Obviously there are parallels with other religions in this or that
>>> aspect.
>>> It's the whole package that is at issue. I can't imagine that any
>>> reader has
>>> said, "Oh! You think the Chapter seems like a twisted version of
>>> Catholic
>>> Church? I hadn't thought of that."
>>>
>>>  How Catholic is the Chapter, really?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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