(urth) Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe")
brunians at brunians.org
brunians at brunians.org
Fri Jun 4 12:39:11 PDT 2010
A lot of people use confession.
Whether or not they got it from the Catholics is problematic.
How close is the form of confession used to the Catholic form?
.
> Well, the concept of needing to confess to a priest as a path to
> absolution is pretty Catholic, I'd think.
> If Wolfe only wanted to play with familiar motifs, why include the plot
> element that the Chapter was founded as a parody of another specific
> religion?
>
>> Well, no, obviously not...I guess what I'm asking is, do that
>> parallels between the Chapter and the Catholic Church rise to the
>> level that within the fictive universe there must be a
>> cause-and-effect relationship between them, or can they be
>> interpretted as merely have a metafictive causal relationship, i.e.,
>> the author is a Catholic with something to say and playing around with
>> ideas that are familiar to him?
>
>>
>> You could just as well ask "How Catholic is the Catholic Church?"
>> Obviously there are parallels with other religions in this or that
>> aspect. It's the whole package that is at issue. I can't imagine
>> that any reader has said, "Oh! You think the Chapter seems like a
>> twisted version of Catholic Church? I hadn't thought of that."
>>
>>> How Catholic is the Chapter, really?
>>>
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