(urth) traveling north

[brunians at brunians.org]

Damn!

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> Touatte.
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
>
>> Ouanquerrie.
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 6/3/2010 8:58 PM, John Watkins wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I agree with this.  Actually, Mormonism has significant Arian
>> elements
>> >>> too, and Mormonism and Islam have a lot in common.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I still have a problem calling anything non-trinitarian Christianity.
>> It
>> >> would be like calling the Nation of Islam the same as Islam, despite
>> it
>> >> maintianing the divinity of its founder, Wallace Fard Muhammad.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I completely agree--however, my agreement is coming from within
>> orthodox
>> > Christianity, so it's far from academically disinterested!  Many
>> students
>> > of
>> > religion solve the problem of who is and who isn't a Christian by
>> simply
>> > considering everyone who claims the name to be one.  I understand why,
>> but
>> > to stretch terms so far makes them nearly meaningless, in my opinion.
>> >
>> > In response to an earlier post on Arianism, I have always thought that
>> the
>> > Jehovah's Witnesses were the closest modern equivalent.  The creators
>> and
>> > subcreators of Mormonism always call to mind, for me, the demiurges,
>> aeons
>> > and emanations of Gnosticism.
>> >
>> > Islam is a more complicated case, I think.  It's very likely that
>> Muhammad
>> > considered himself a sort of Christian.  I have always thought that
>> the
>> > Iconoclastic movement, and later the Swiss Reformers, partook somewhat
>> of
>> > the Islamic ethos.  Certainly Calvin has more in common with Muhammad
>> than
>> > with most of the Fathers...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt +
>> >
>> > Each of us bears his own Hell.
>> > Virgil [Publius Vergilius Maro] (70-19 B.C.), Aeneid, bk. VI, l. 743
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> Matt +
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> Each of us bears his own Hell.
> Virgil [Publius Vergilius Maro] (70-19 B.C.), Aeneid, bk. VI, l. 743
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