(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 70, Issue 15

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> James, you should post this kind of stuff more often.
>
> Would it be safe to say that the apparent theme or motif of incest
> committed by Severian derives directly from the twinned sexes comprising
> the gnostic God?
>
> If so, necessarily, Valeria must be Severian's sister, as has been
> suggested.
>
> If Severian is always mating with his female counterparts/family members
> through TBotNS, is this a process of the Keymaster always trying to fit
> his Key into the right Gatekeeper (iirc) so that a new universe may be
> born?
>
> (See John Crowley, Endless Things etc., for an account of an apparently
> failed attempt to do this, or maybe not failed at all...)
>
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> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:47:49 -0500
> From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: (urth) travelling north
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>  >>The figurative worlds of Severian and Silk are Gnostic
>  >>ones not Judeo-Apostolic ones. Those protagonists act,
>  >>and achieve, within their worlds as the Gnostic Christ does.
>  >>Not as the Johanine Christ acts.
>
>  >David Stockhoff wrote:
>  >Interesting. Can you elaborate on the distinction?
>  >(I'm not familiar with the Gnostic Christ's achievements.)
>
> Well, for starters, the Gnostic Christ does not save anyone
> individually. He saves mankind as a whole through the example of his
> enlightenment. This is closer to the salvation of Silk and Severian than
> Jesus. Additionally "the Christ" is merely the male half of God
> (although even that term has a somewhat different meaning). With the
> female half they form the syzygy of their particular Aeon. This is
> Severian and Thecla. Silk and Hyacinth are a retelling of the gnostic
> story of Simon Magus and Helena. Helena was the Ennoia who had fallen
> into the lower aeons and become trapped in matter. "The Father",
> manifesting himself as Simon Magus, "The Son", finds her in a brothel
> suffering abuse, and rescues her. There's also Ophis, the serpent, mixed
> up in the story. It would difficult, but take fewer words, to detail the
> ways that New Sun and Long Son are inconsistant with what we know of the
> teachings of  guys like Tatian and Valentinus or the group founded on
> their teachings known as the Severians.
>
> J
>
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