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> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/3/2010 8:58 PM, John Watkins wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with this.  Actually, Mormonism has significant Arian elements
>>> too, and Mormonism and Islam have a lot in common.
>>>
>>
>> I still have a problem calling anything non-trinitarian Christianity. It
>> would be like calling the Nation of Islam the same as Islam, despite it
>> maintianing the divinity of its founder, Wallace Fard Muhammad.
>>
>>
> I completely agree--however, my agreement is coming from within orthodox
> Christianity, so it's far from academically disinterested!  Many students
> of
> religion solve the problem of who is and who isn't a Christian by simply
> considering everyone who claims the name to be one.  I understand why, but
> to stretch terms so far makes them nearly meaningless, in my opinion.
>
> In response to an earlier post on Arianism, I have always thought that the
> Jehovah's Witnesses were the closest modern equivalent.  The creators and
> subcreators of Mormonism always call to mind, for me, the demiurges, aeons
> and emanations of Gnosticism.
>
> Islam is a more complicated case, I think.  It's very likely that Muhammad
> considered himself a sort of Christian.  I have always thought that the
> Iconoclastic movement, and later the Swiss Reformers, partook somewhat of
> the Islamic ethos.  Certainly Calvin has more in common with Muhammad than
> with most of the Fathers...
>
> --
> Matt +
>
> Each of us bears his own Hell.
> Virgil [Publius Vergilius Maro] (70-19 B.C.), Aeneid, bk. VI, l. 743
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