(urth) Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe")

brunians at brunians.org brunians at brunians.org
Fri Jun 4 12:11:42 PDT 2010


Priests are celibate for reasons which have nothing to do with religion
per se.

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> How Catholic is the Chapter, really?
>
> Naturally there are elements in the liturgy and priestly celibacy.  But
> the
> Catholic liturgy did not spring forth fully formed either, and priestly
> celibacy is not a uniquely Christian practice either (many Buddhist
> groups,
> um...Vestal Virgins...have to be others as well).
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:04 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On the other hand, it is possible for a "Catholic Church" to have been
>> established in the Commonwealth without a Jesus (complete with crosses)
>> merely in correspondence to the vibrations of our Universe, just as in
>> Green's dimension (There Are Doors) grooms wear black at weddings only
>> because they do it in Lara's dimension.
>>
>> In that case, the Chapter is a parody of an echo. But somehow I find
>> that
>> less satisfying.
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>> True for just about any character in a Wolfe story.
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure how trustworthy a source Lemur is...
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:36 AM, James Wynn<crushtv at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't Wolfe undermine the idea that Urth's universe has no Jesus in
>>>>> "The
>>>>> Book of the Long Sun"? Lemur told Silk that Scylla founded the
>>>>> Chapter
>>>>> as a
>>>>> "parody of the state religion of her own whorl". I suppose it is
>>>>> possible to
>>>>> claim that that "state religion" was not Catholicism, but I don't
>>>>> know
>>>>> why
>>>>> anyone would bother.
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