(urth) On Pedophillia and Homosexuality
David Stockhoff
dstockhoff at verizon.net
Wed Jul 21 17:44:01 PDT 2010
I agree. Although I am skeptical that the "boy" is a catamite. Severian
thinks so, but he can be wrong.
Matthew Weber wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Nicholas <nickjost at yahoo.com
> <mailto:nickjost at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> " don't see where you get this from. Granted Baldanders is not
> shown as having any sexual interest in women, and by default one
> might assume that such a character might (or might not) be gay.
> But the modified child in his bed hardly qualifies as a man."
>
> You make two bad assumptions that the classic world didn't. The
> first is that sexual preference is fixed. As I pointed out this is
> a new (and I think very wrong) idea. Two, that the boys essential
> nature isn't human and male. What is he, a female mouse? A Greek
> wouldn't understand the fine difference you're driving at to
> protect modern sensibilities (sensibilities trained by a halting
> assumption of Christian ethics). What difference does it make when
> I sleep with a slave that is three or thirty?
>
>
> I wouldn't even say a halting assumption of Christian ethics; it's the
> influence of the late 19th-century construction of the innocence of
> childhood (of course, only middle- and upper-class children were
> innocent, as a perusal of the literature on Victorian child prostitution
> will show).
>
> Nicholas' comments about sexual orientation are spot-on--see
> Foucault's History of Sexuality for some very illuminating thinking on
> this subject.
> --
> Matt +
>
> A grudging and infrequent worshipper of the gods.
> Horace [Quintus Horatius Flaccus] (65-8 B.C.), Odes, bk. I [23
> B.C.], ode xxxiv, l. 1
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