(urth) Appearances of Inire

[John Watkins]

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:

> And you believe this because ...?
>
>
> Because, as James and Roy have pointed out, it is what the text says about
them.


>
>
> > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
> >
> >> He appears to believe that Tzadkiel is a hierodule.
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >
> > No.  I believe that the Hierogrammates were artificially bred by the
> > Hieros.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > I honestly think top-posting usually isn't helpful - maybe it's early
> >> > afternoon drowsiness but I can't grasp your point.
> >> >
> >> > John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 16:31):
> >> >> Tdazkiel's people are themselves artificial...awfully difficult to
> >> blame
> >> >> God for their control over the universe.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2010/7/1 António Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com
> >>  >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>
> >> >>
> >> >>     Option 2 I think is untenable.
> >> >>
> >> >>     - If God is good, then it makes no sense to create a universe in
> >> >> which:
> >> >>       + God's creatures are toys in an evil power's hands
> >> >>       + God's creatures believe that the evil power is not evil at
> >> all
> >> >>     and is doing God's work
> >> >>       + those who oppose the evil power are not, generally speaking,
> >> >>     better people than the others, and in fact seem to be worse.
> >> >>
> >> >>     - If God isn't good then by what standard can we call such an
> >> >>     unfathomable being as Tzadkiel evil?
> >> >>
> >> >>     Keeping option 3 doesn't mean that the acts of Tzadkiel need no
> >> >>     atoning for, it just means they're done with the best of
> >> intentions
> >> >>     and knowledge. We have a saying here, 'Of [people with] good
> >> >>     intentions is Hell full'.
> >> >>
> >> >>     Antonio
> >> >>
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