(urth) Tzadkiel/Melek Taus

[Gerry Quinn]

From: "Lee Berman" <severiansola at hotmail.com>
>>G.Q.- But here is an obvious question which should have an answer within 
>>the text:
>>if your theory is correct, where in BotNS/UotNS is the counterpart of The 
>>Outsider?
>>And what Urthly presences/powers stand against the New Sun? Vodalus? Who, 
>>Mr.
>>Thallassocrat, is standing for what you say is Good?
>
> I think the BotNS analog to The Outsider is The Increate. I am not the 
> best religious
> philosophy scholar but I think those who deeply consider the question end 
> up coming
> to the conclusion that, while we humans are supposed to choose "good", God 
> is
> infintely above such conflict. In fact God/The Outsider/Increate uses both 
> good
> and evil; pitting them against each other to accomplish His unknowable 
> divine goals.

Sure, but that is not the point I am getting at.  The question I'm asking 
relates to the Urthly representatives of good.  Surely there should be 
someone - apart from a few witch doctors maybe - standing up for the 
prevention of the White Fountain, if that's what the Increate wants?


> As we read Long Sun we see The Outsider get promoted in Silk's mind from 
> minor deity
> to top dog. However the "truth" is that The Outsider is far more than top 
> dog, the
> boss of all gods. In fact he has created Pas and Scylla and Echidna and 
> The Whorl
> and Blue and Green and Urth and uses them to accomplish His goals. Right?

Yes.  And we assume that some at least of what's going on is in accordance 
with those goals.

- Gerry Quinn