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[David Stockhoff]

Ah, OK. Yes, although Tolkien did not worship the Ainur or Iluvatar, 
they aren't exactly heretical.

Melkor, of course, is Lucifer/Satan. Tolkien was following in the 
footsteps of at least one fantasist.

On 12/16/2010 12:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:03 AM, David Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net>  wrote:
>> I understood that to be James' point. Tolkien was a Christian writer.
> I'll let James speak for himself if I'm wrong, but I understood his
> saying that "Silmarillion does not align with the Bible" as meaning
> that it was not in line with Tolkien's actual beliefs. My point is
> that, while I doubt that JRRT actually "believed" the Silmarillion,
> its cosmology actually _does_ align with the Bible, with the correct
> dance steps.
>
> --Dan'l
>
>> On 12/16/2010 11:55 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:19 AM, James Wynn<crushtv at gmail.com>    wrote:
>>>
>>>> You know, just because someone has beliefs does not mean that the
>>>> fictional
>>>> worlds they create need to be in line with those beliefs. Fundamentally,
>>>> The
>>>> Book of the New Sun is fantasy literature. The setting and history
>>>> Silmarillion does not align with the Bible either. I'm sure there are
>>>> plenty
>>>> of materialist atheists who write stories about elves and giants.
>>> Actually, Tolkien went out of his way to make the cosmology of the
>>> Silm. compatable (though only by some fast dancing) with Christianity.
>>> The "gods" are angels, etc.
>>>
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