(urth) Dionysus

Stuart Hamm hammstu at sbcglobal.net
Wed Dec 8 16:36:43 PST 2010


Wolfe a Rush fan??????That's the funniest thing I've heard all day!!!!!

             
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--- On Wed, 12/8/10, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:

From: David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Dionysus
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 3:41 PM

What about his association with a certain Rush album from the 1970s?

Is Wolfe a Rush fan?

I think we need to explore all possible angles.

On 12/8/2010 6:34 PM, James Wynn wrote:
> 
>>> James Wynn wrote:
>>> Dionysus is called the God of Vine, literally. I know of no place where he is called the God of the Grape Vine.
>> Andrew Mason-
>> Historically, 'vine' means grape vine. Its use to mean any climbing
>> plant is quite recent. That is why Dionysus is called God of the Vine.
>> On the other hand, he is also associated with ivy, so a link with
>> climbing plants more generally is not ruled out.
> 
> So...we agree that he's is the god of the "vine", not just grape vines.
> I do not believe specific species of vines mattered to Wolfe for this association one little bit. Dionysus was the God of the Vine.  Inhumi were, are, or become vines on Blue as well as Green in some way no one but Wolfe seems to understand. Done. When the Sileni drank wine they believed they were possessed by a spirit of that wine. When inhuma drink blood their children are possessed by the spirit of the person who gave the blood. The word inhuma comes from a word association between the bird and the designations for Dionysus. Quetzal performs many of the deeds from Dionysus's life.
> 
> The Outsider is associated with Dionysus in the novel. Silk is associated both with Dionysus (since it is said by some that the "son of Thyone" is the son of Pas), and he is associated with followers of Dionysus (multiple instances).
> 
> I'm glad we cleared that up.
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