(urth) The Key to the Universe...

António Pedro Marques entonio at gmail.com
Fri Aug 13 13:41:23 PDT 2010


Jeff Wilson wrote (13-08-2010 21:33):
> On 8/13/2010 1:56 PM, António Pedro Marques wrote:
>> Jeff Wilson wrote (13-08-2010 18:07):
>>> On 8/13/2010 10:18 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>> (1) Did they really connect to Briah from their universe? I don't see
>>>> that. It matters.
>>>>
>>>> (2) Severian's assessment of knowability regarding the Hieromakers is
>>>> exactly right. It's unknowable---neither provable nor disprovable that
>>>> they are us---whoever "us" is.
>>>>
>>>> (3) The "advancement" bit is similarly fuzzy. However, if the races
>>>> advance with each universe, one might guess that the Hieromakers lie in
>>>> later iterations (whatever that means) rather than earlier.
>>>>
>>>> In Yesod, Briahtic "later" and "earlier" mean nothing, so beings from
>>>> infinitely "future" iterations can shake hands there with blobby
>>>> cavemen
>>>> from a "past" one. Per Severian, we can't tell whether the Hieromakers
>>>> lie in our within-iteration future or our later-iterative future, but
>>>> they must lie ahead, or else "we" (whoever "we" are) would be more
>>>> advanced than they.
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is correct, what prevents the Yesodis from directly accessing
>>> their original, immediate makers' iteration and having another go at
>>> Ascension?
>>
>> The Hierogrammates may not have complete control over Yesodian time
>> and/or space.
>
> Why would that be necessary when the Hieros sprang from Briah?

I beg your pardon?



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