(urth) Resurrections

[Jerry Friedman]

I'm not going to participate in this unless Josh requests opinions explicitly, 
and I hope others will consider that plan.

Jerry Friedman



----- Original Message ----
From: Jeff Eoff <jeffeoff at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 7:08:44 PM
Subject: Re: (urth) Resurrections

I'm just putting up with you.  

I presumed you suffer from Aspergers to be honest.



On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:

> The feeling is quiet mutual.
> 
> Most of us == who? Most of the voices in your head?
> 
> How do you know that most of the list is just putting up with me?
> 
> You have taken a survey?
> 
> Might you publish your results here?
> 
> There are several noninnumerates here, one or more of whom may comment
> upon your statistics: I may myself.
> 
> In the meantime, if you wish to affect my involuntary removal from this
> list, I suggest that you apply to the owner of the list, and not to me,
> who - I am not sure if you get this - does not respect you and will not do
> what you want me to do.
> 
> Do you have any questions?
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
>> You are an unpleasant aspect of this list that most of us are just putting
>> up with.  I wish you would refrain from personal insults or intentionally
>> enigmatic digressions.  We'd all be better off.
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> And a society that is physically deteriorating due to climate change,
>>> that
>>> is also in the middle of a huge war, tends not support sports such as
>>> recreational mountain climbing.
>>> 
>>> Why do you always presume, Stockhoff?
>>> 
>>> Don't you ever know?
>>> 
>>> Do you believe that folks don't notice you saying nasty things whenever
>>> I
>>> ask a question you don't wish to answer?
>>> 
>>> How stupid are you, exactly?
>>> 
>>> I keep going back and forth between you and the JW's in my perennial
>>> urth
>>> list dumbest monkey test.
>>> 
>>> .
>>> 
>>>> Presumably it was far from where anyone would normally go.
>>>> 
>>>> António Pedro Marques wrote:
>>>>> And isn't Typhon supposed to be *2* thousand years before Severian?
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Never mind that Typhon was up there in his mountain all the time.
>>> Did
>>>>> no one think of going there?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>>>> 200 autarchs could rule an average of 5 years each over 1000 years.
>>> If
>>>>>> 20 of these autarchs ruled an average of 20 years, the remaining 180
>>>>>> would each have to rule for about 3+1/3 years to maintain the
>>> average.
>>>>>> It's possible. In such a system, the individuality of each autarch,
>>> all
>>>>>> but the greatest, would be inconsequential and utterly lost. Which
>>> is
>>>>>> exactly what has happened in imperial dynasties. England's monarch,
>>> by
>>>>>> contrast, was much more robust even at its weakest.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If we know only 3 names from the past 1000 years, perhaps that is
>>> why.
>>>>>> If only these 3 ruled for 50 each and the remainder for still only
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> 4 years on average, that makes 200 in total. It's then slightly more
>>>>>> plausible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But is this important?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/1/2010 1:36 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some autarchs may have ruled for only a week.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's not unusual for popes or kings either. John-Paul I reigned a
>>>>>>> month, Jane Grey for 9 days, and IIRC the Hawaiian Kamehameha
>>> dynasty
>>>>>>> ended with the last couple of heirs reigning for less than a day
>>>>>>> apiece. These rates can't be sustained with anything like
>>> stability,
>>>>>>> and are more than compensated for by the Victorias and Henrys, who
>>>>>>> come to the throne young and live on into vigorous old age.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Appian-Severian-Valeria cover a minimum of eight decades, I'd say,
>>> and
>>>>>>> Ymar could easily have been one of the child-Autarchs as well as
>>>>>>> reigning long enough to be credited with his various deeds and
>>>>>>> commands, even if he didn't actually do or complete all of them.
>>> This
>>>>>>> leaves about nine hundred years for all but one of the hundreds the
>>>>>>> Old Autarch spoke of, surely they can do better than that? In the
>>> 900
>>>>>>> years following the Norman Conquest there were only 45 English
>>>>>>> monarchs.
>>>>>>> 
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