(urth) Resurrections

John Watkins john.watkins04 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 1 17:36:56 PDT 2010


You are an unpleasant aspect of this list that most of us are just putting
up with.  I wish you would refrain from personal insults or intentionally
enigmatic digressions.  We'd all be better off.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:

> And a society that is physically deteriorating due to climate change, that
> is also in the middle of a huge war, tends not support sports such as
> recreational mountain climbing.
>
> Why do you always presume, Stockhoff?
>
> Don't you ever know?
>
> Do you believe that folks don't notice you saying nasty things whenever I
> ask a question you don't wish to answer?
>
> How stupid are you, exactly?
>
> I keep going back and forth between you and the JW's in my perennial urth
> list dumbest monkey test.
>
> .
>
> > Presumably it was far from where anyone would normally go.
> >
> > António Pedro Marques wrote:
> >> And isn't Typhon supposed to be *2* thousand years before Severian?
> >>
> >> (Never mind that Typhon was up there in his mountain all the time. Did
> >> no one think of going there?)
> >>
> >> David Stockhoff wrote:
> >>> 200 autarchs could rule an average of 5 years each over 1000 years. If
> >>> 20 of these autarchs ruled an average of 20 years, the remaining 180
> >>> would each have to rule for about 3+1/3 years to maintain the average.
> >>> It's possible. In such a system, the individuality of each autarch, all
> >>> but the greatest, would be inconsequential and utterly lost. Which is
> >>> exactly what has happened in imperial dynasties. England's monarch, by
> >>> contrast, was much more robust even at its weakest.
> >>>
> >>> If we know only 3 names from the past 1000 years, perhaps that is why.
> >>> If only these 3 ruled for 50 each and the remainder for still only
> >>> about
> >>> 4 years on average, that makes 200 in total. It's then slightly more
> >>> plausible.
> >>>
> >>> But is this important?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Wilson wrote:
> >>>> On 8/1/2010 1:36 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
> >>>>> Some autarchs may have ruled for only a week.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's not unusual for popes or kings either. John-Paul I reigned a
> >>>> month, Jane Grey for 9 days, and IIRC the Hawaiian Kamehameha dynasty
> >>>> ended with the last couple of heirs reigning for less than a day
> >>>> apiece. These rates can't be sustained with anything like stability,
> >>>> and are more than compensated for by the Victorias and Henrys, who
> >>>> come to the throne young and live on into vigorous old age.
> >>>>
> >>>> Appian-Severian-Valeria cover a minimum of eight decades, I'd say, and
> >>>> Ymar could easily have been one of the child-Autarchs as well as
> >>>> reigning long enough to be credited with his various deeds and
> >>>> commands, even if he didn't actually do or complete all of them. This
> >>>> leaves about nine hundred years for all but one of the hundreds the
> >>>> Old Autarch spoke of, surely they can do better than that? In the 900
> >>>> years following the Norman Conquest there were only 45 English
> >>>> monarchs.
> >>>>
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