(urth) Resurrections

David Stockhoff dstockhoff at verizon.net
Sun Aug 1 16:57:11 PDT 2010


Quote me.

brunians at brunians.org wrote:
> And a society that is physically deteriorating due to climate change, that
> is also in the middle of a huge war, tends not support sports such as
> recreational mountain climbing.
>
> Why do you always presume, Stockhoff?
>
> Don't you ever know?
>
> Do you believe that folks don't notice you saying nasty things whenever I
> ask a question you don't wish to answer?
>
> How stupid are you, exactly?
>
> I keep going back and forth between you and the JW's in my perennial urth
> list dumbest monkey test.
>
> .
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>> Presumably it was far from where anyone would normally go.
>>
>> António Pedro Marques wrote:
>>     
>>> And isn't Typhon supposed to be *2* thousand years before Severian?
>>>
>>> (Never mind that Typhon was up there in his mountain all the time. Did
>>> no one think of going there?)
>>>
>>> David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>       
>>>> 200 autarchs could rule an average of 5 years each over 1000 years. If
>>>> 20 of these autarchs ruled an average of 20 years, the remaining 180
>>>> would each have to rule for about 3+1/3 years to maintain the average.
>>>> It's possible. In such a system, the individuality of each autarch, all
>>>> but the greatest, would be inconsequential and utterly lost. Which is
>>>> exactly what has happened in imperial dynasties. England's monarch, by
>>>> contrast, was much more robust even at its weakest.
>>>>
>>>> If we know only 3 names from the past 1000 years, perhaps that is why.
>>>> If only these 3 ruled for 50 each and the remainder for still only
>>>> about
>>>> 4 years on average, that makes 200 in total. It's then slightly more
>>>> plausible.
>>>>
>>>> But is this important?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> On 8/1/2010 1:36 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Some autarchs may have ruled for only a week.
>>>>>>             
>>>>> That's not unusual for popes or kings either. John-Paul I reigned a
>>>>> month, Jane Grey for 9 days, and IIRC the Hawaiian Kamehameha dynasty
>>>>> ended with the last couple of heirs reigning for less than a day
>>>>> apiece. These rates can't be sustained with anything like stability,
>>>>> and are more than compensated for by the Victorias and Henrys, who
>>>>> come to the throne young and live on into vigorous old age.
>>>>>
>>>>> Appian-Severian-Valeria cover a minimum of eight decades, I'd say, and
>>>>> Ymar could easily have been one of the child-Autarchs as well as
>>>>> reigning long enough to be credited with his various deeds and
>>>>> commands, even if he didn't actually do or complete all of them. This
>>>>> leaves about nine hundred years for all but one of the hundreds the
>>>>> Old Autarch spoke of, surely they can do better than that? In the 900
>>>>> years following the Norman Conquest there were only 45 English
>>>>> monarchs.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
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