(urth) The Key to the Universe...

David Stockhoff dstockhoff at verizon.net
Sun Aug 15 13:19:09 PDT 2010


Perhaps it's somehow easier to control the universe "below"---that this 
is in fact part of the definitions of "above" and "below"?

António Pedro Marques wrote:
> Jeff Wilson wrote (13-08-2010 18:07):
>> On 8/13/2010 10:18 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>> (1) Did they really connect to Briah from their universe? I don't see
>>> that. It matters.
>>>
>>> (2) Severian's assessment of knowability regarding the Hieromakers is
>>> exactly right. It's unknowable---neither provable nor disprovable that
>>> they are us---whoever "us" is.
>>>
>>> (3) The "advancement" bit is similarly fuzzy. However, if the races
>>> advance with each universe, one might guess that the Hieromakers lie in
>>> later iterations (whatever that means) rather than earlier.
>>>
>>> In Yesod, Briahtic "later" and "earlier" mean nothing, so beings from
>>> infinitely "future" iterations can shake hands there with blobby 
>>> cavemen
>>> from a "past" one. Per Severian, we can't tell whether the Hieromakers
>>> lie in our within-iteration future or our later-iterative future, but
>>> they must lie ahead, or else "we" (whoever "we" are) would be more
>>> advanced than they.
>>
>>
>> If this is correct, what prevents the Yesodis from directly accessing
>> their original, immediate makers' iteration and having another go at
>> Ascension?
>
> The Hierogrammates may not have complete control over Yesodian time 
> and/or space.
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