(urth) Resurrections

Mon Aug 2 01:58:48 PDT 2010

You certainly have my vote.  I am just sick of scrolling through the
nonsense.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:14 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:

> There's only one opinion that counts.
>
> But who knows?
>
> Maybe you can get a democratic movement going.
>
> I imagine if the masses become clamorous Dr Bhatnagar might respond.
>
> How many people are on the Gene Wolfe list?
>
> Meanwhile, why don't you answer some of the questions you don't want to
> answer, you weasel you.
>
> .
>
> > I second John. That's 2.
> >
> > brunians at brunians.org wrote:
> >> The feeling is quiet mutual.
> >>
> >> Most of us == who? Most of the voices in your head?
> >>
> >> How do you know that most of the list is just putting up with me?
> >>
> >> You have taken a survey?
> >>
> >> Might you publish your results here?
> >>
> >> There are several noninnumerates here, one or more of whom may comment
> >> upon your statistics: I may myself.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, if you wish to affect my involuntary removal from this
> >> list, I suggest that you apply to the owner of the list, and not to me,
> >> who - I am not sure if you get this - does not respect you and will not
> >> do
> >> what you want me to do.
> >>
> >> Do you have any questions?
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> >>> You are an unpleasant aspect of this list that most of us are just
> >>> putting
> >>> up with.  I wish you would refrain from personal insults or
> >>> intentionally
> >>> enigmatic digressions.  We'd all be better off.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And a society that is physically deteriorating due to climate change,
> >>>> that
> >>>> is also in the middle of a huge war, tends not support sports such as
> >>>> recreational mountain climbing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do you always presume, Stockhoff?
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't you ever know?
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you believe that folks don't notice you saying nasty things
> >>>> whenever
> >>>> I
> >>>> ask a question you don't wish to answer?
> >>>>
> >>>> How stupid are you, exactly?
> >>>>
> >>>> I keep going back and forth between you and the JW's in my perennial
> >>>> urth
> >>>> list dumbest monkey test.
> >>>>
> >>>> .
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Presumably it was far from where anyone would normally go.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> António Pedro Marques wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And isn't Typhon supposed to be *2* thousand years before Severian?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (Never mind that Typhon was up there in his mountain all the time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>> Did
> >>>>
> >>>>>> no one think of going there?)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> David Stockhoff wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 200 autarchs could rule an average of 5 years each over 1000 years.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> If
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> 20 of these autarchs ruled an average of 20 years, the remaining
> >>>>>>> 180
> >>>>>>> would each have to rule for about 3+1/3 years to maintain the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> average.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> It's possible. In such a system, the individuality of each autarch,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> all
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> but the greatest, would be inconsequential and utterly lost. Which
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> is
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> exactly what has happened in imperial dynasties. England's monarch,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> by
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> contrast, was much more robust even at its weakest.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we know only 3 names from the past 1000 years, perhaps that is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> why.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> If only these 3 ruled for 50 each and the remainder for still only
> >>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>> 4 years on average, that makes 200 in total. It's then slightly
> >>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>> plausible.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But is this important?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jeff Wilson wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 8/1/2010 1:36 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Some autarchs may have ruled for only a week.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's not unusual for popes or kings either. John-Paul I reigned
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> month, Jane Grey for 9 days, and IIRC the Hawaiian Kamehameha
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> dynasty
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> ended with the last couple of heirs reigning for less than a day
> >>>>>>>> apiece. These rates can't be sustained with anything like
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> stability,
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> and are more than compensated for by the Victorias and Henrys, who
> >>>>>>>> come to the throne young and live on into vigorous old age.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Appian-Severian-Valeria cover a minimum of eight decades, I'd say,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ymar could easily have been one of the child-Autarchs as well as
> >>>>>>>> reigning long enough to be credited with his various deeds and
> >>>>>>>> commands, even if he didn't actually do or complete all of them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> This
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> leaves about nine hundred years for all but one of the hundreds
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> Old Autarch spoke of, surely they can do better than that? In the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> 900
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> years following the Norman Conquest there were only 45 English
> >>>>>>>> monarchs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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