(urth) Is Severian A Real Person?

aaron aaronsingleton at gmail.com
Sun Aug 1 19:00:40 PDT 2010


I think this is what email is for.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:57 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:

> You're utterly lost, Josh.
>
> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>
>> Stockhoff, take stock.
>>
>> Be a fucking weasel, see what happens.
>>
>> It probably won't come from me.
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Which passage?
>>>
>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ah! You do in fact know what a scruple is.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that you had gone stupid on me.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you scruple to call the narrator Severian in that passage?
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't answer a silly question just because it's asked in a manner
>>>>> that
>>>>> is relatively civil, compared to most of that person's questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Call it a scruple.
>>>>>
>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't know what a scruple is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Else you would have answered my more or less civil question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What character in the Book of the New Sun do you identify with and
>>>>>> why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could lend you some scruples, but you'd waste them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because I enjoy fucking with weasels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's your forfeit to be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't mention Severian at all or even TBotNS, so I can't scruple
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do one or the other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you scruple to read people's posts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is a scruple, Stockhoff?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator
>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these
>>>>>>>>>>>> mundane
>>>>>>>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did no such thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, you scruple to call the narrator Severian.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mundane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lee Berman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brunians- The only difference between Severian and you and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different Author
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I presume the Author of you and I is to be considered of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intelligence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too vast,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> penetrating, universal, inhuman and mysterious to ever be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How true is that of the intelligence of the author of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Severian?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gurloes is a tragic and interesting figure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is father to Severian in a way that Palaemon is not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. There are places in Wolfe's work where I am sure he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referring to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own wife and children in addition to his fictional characters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> describes Master Gurloes as being tragic, a complex man trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone who eats too much and not often enough, seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places.
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