(urth) Resurrections

brunians at brunians.org brunians at brunians.org
Sun Aug 1 17:45:16 PDT 2010


The feeling is quiet mutual.

Most of us == who? Most of the voices in your head?

How do you know that most of the list is just putting up with me?

You have taken a survey?

Might you publish your results here?

There are several noninnumerates here, one or more of whom may comment
upon your statistics: I may myself.

In the meantime, if you wish to affect my involuntary removal from this
list, I suggest that you apply to the owner of the list, and not to me,
who - I am not sure if you get this - does not respect you and will not do
what you want me to do.

Do you have any questions?

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> You are an unpleasant aspect of this list that most of us are just putting
> up with.  I wish you would refrain from personal insults or intentionally
> enigmatic digressions.  We'd all be better off.
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
>
>> And a society that is physically deteriorating due to climate change,
>> that
>> is also in the middle of a huge war, tends not support sports such as
>> recreational mountain climbing.
>>
>> Why do you always presume, Stockhoff?
>>
>> Don't you ever know?
>>
>> Do you believe that folks don't notice you saying nasty things whenever
>> I
>> ask a question you don't wish to answer?
>>
>> How stupid are you, exactly?
>>
>> I keep going back and forth between you and the JW's in my perennial
>> urth
>> list dumbest monkey test.
>>
>> .
>>
>> > Presumably it was far from where anyone would normally go.
>> >
>> > António Pedro Marques wrote:
>> >> And isn't Typhon supposed to be *2* thousand years before Severian?
>> >>
>> >> (Never mind that Typhon was up there in his mountain all the time.
>> Did
>> >> no one think of going there?)
>> >>
>> >> David Stockhoff wrote:
>> >>> 200 autarchs could rule an average of 5 years each over 1000 years.
>> If
>> >>> 20 of these autarchs ruled an average of 20 years, the remaining 180
>> >>> would each have to rule for about 3+1/3 years to maintain the
>> average.
>> >>> It's possible. In such a system, the individuality of each autarch,
>> all
>> >>> but the greatest, would be inconsequential and utterly lost. Which
>> is
>> >>> exactly what has happened in imperial dynasties. England's monarch,
>> by
>> >>> contrast, was much more robust even at its weakest.
>> >>>
>> >>> If we know only 3 names from the past 1000 years, perhaps that is
>> why.
>> >>> If only these 3 ruled for 50 each and the remainder for still only
>> >>> about
>> >>> 4 years on average, that makes 200 in total. It's then slightly more
>> >>> plausible.
>> >>>
>> >>> But is this important?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff Wilson wrote:
>> >>>> On 8/1/2010 1:36 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>> >>>>> Some autarchs may have ruled for only a week.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That's not unusual for popes or kings either. John-Paul I reigned a
>> >>>> month, Jane Grey for 9 days, and IIRC the Hawaiian Kamehameha
>> dynasty
>> >>>> ended with the last couple of heirs reigning for less than a day
>> >>>> apiece. These rates can't be sustained with anything like
>> stability,
>> >>>> and are more than compensated for by the Victorias and Henrys, who
>> >>>> come to the throne young and live on into vigorous old age.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Appian-Severian-Valeria cover a minimum of eight decades, I'd say,
>> and
>> >>>> Ymar could easily have been one of the child-Autarchs as well as
>> >>>> reigning long enough to be credited with his various deeds and
>> >>>> commands, even if he didn't actually do or complete all of them.
>> This
>> >>>> leaves about nine hundred years for all but one of the hundreds the
>> >>>> Old Autarch spoke of, surely they can do better than that? In the
>> 900
>> >>>> years following the Norman Conquest there were only 45 English
>> >>>> monarchs.
>> >>>>
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