(urth) Is Severian A Real Person?

David Stockhoff dstockhoff at verizon.net
Sun Aug 1 16:12:54 PDT 2010


Which passage?

brunians at brunians.org wrote:
> Ah! You do in fact know what a scruple is.
>
> I thought that you had gone stupid on me.
>
> Why do you scruple to call the narrator Severian in that passage?
>
> .
>
>
>   
>> I don't answer a silly question just because it's asked in a manner that
>> is relatively civil, compared to most of that person's questions.
>>
>> Call it a scruple.
>>
>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>     
>>> You don't know what a scruple is.
>>>
>>> Else you would have answered my more or less civil question.
>>>
>>> What character in the Book of the New Sun do you identify with and why?
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I could lend you some scruples, but you'd waste them.
>>>>
>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Because I enjoy fucking with weasels.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's your forfeit to be?
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I didn't mention Severian at all or even TBotNS, so I can't scruple
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do one or the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you scruple to read people's posts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> What is a scruple, Stockhoff?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator says
>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these mundane
>>>>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> I did no such thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Still, you scruple to call the narrator Severian.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator says
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these mundane
>>>>>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lee Berman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> brunians- The only difference between Severian and you and I is
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>>>> different Author
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> I presume the Author of you and I is to be considered of an
>>>>>>>>>>> intelligence
>>>>>>>>>>> too vast,
>>>>>>>>>>> penetrating, universal, inhuman and mysterious to ever be
>>>>>>>>>>> comprehended
>>>>>>>>>>> by us.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How true is that of the intelligence of the author of Severian?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gurloes is a tragic and interesting figure.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He is father to Severian in a way that Palaemon is not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. There are places in Wolfe's work where I am sure he is
>>>>>>>>>>> referring to his
>>>>>>>>>>> own wife and children in addition to his fictional characters.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>> where he
>>>>>>>>>>> describes Master Gurloes as being tragic, a complex man trying
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> appear
>>>>>>>>>>> simple,
>>>>>>>>>>> someone who eats too much and not often enough, seems to be one
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>>>>>>> places.
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