(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 57, Issue 30
John Watkins
john.watkins04 at gmail.com
Tue May 19 15:20:47 PDT 2009
Do economists still take the account of the nature of profit explained below
seriously? I encountered it in school myself, laughed at it, and was
assured that I wasn not expected to *believe *it.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:
> Thank you for this.
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> ... The substitution of civil government/society with a profit driven
> market removes this universally-agreed as beneficial goal of cooperation
> and replaced it with a unilateral goal of profit. As wealth cannot be
> created ex nihilo, profit must arise from a producer taking more than a
> product is worth. This is only possible on a market where supply and demand
> are manipulated against the interest of the consumer.
>
> Thus, the market is merely the latest iteration of the master-slave
> relation. It is the battlefield of class conflict. How does calling taxes
> imposed by a lawful sovereign equal theft, but the creation of profit not
> equal extortion by a self-selected, undemocratic oligarchy?
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> Individuals and individual liberty are only meaningful insofar as a civil
> legal system ensures they are protected. Authoritarian abuses by right and
> left ignore this. Free markets actively surpress it by economic
> manipulation.
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