(urth) The Devil in a Forest

[Jerry Friedman]

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, brunians at brunians.org <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
> Good in this context means 'well (or competently) done'.

Sure.  To restate what I said more concisely, propaganda
is one of those things that I don't prefer to be done
competently.

Jerry Friedman

> > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, brunians at brunians.org
> <brunians at brunians.org>
> wrote:
> >> > I'm grateful for this discussion, because
> when I read
> >> tDiaF I thought it
> >> > was just a quaint, but obvious, morality
> tale. Now, I
> >> realize that it isn't
> >> > so "on the nose" at all. It's actually a
> quite
> >> exquisite bit of propaganda
> >> > (unlike say "Atlas Shrugged"). Truly
> masterful
> >> propaganda is one where the
> >> > audience doesn't realize it's being
> propagandized.
> >>
> >> Really good propaganda will have people denying
> that it is
> >> propaganda.
> >
> > It depends on what you mean by "good".  I suppose
> you could
> > say that a really "good" thief or murderer doesn't
> get
> > caught, but I think the quotation marks are
> appropriate.
> >
> > Some propaganda helps bring about many deaths. 
> The
> > kind that people are describing in /The Devil in a
> Forest/
> > (which I haven't read) is presumably far less harmful,
> but
> > I still prefer political arguments with the cards on
> the
> > table.
> >
> >> I find it very interesting that many of the people
> who
> >> disagree with
> >> Wolfe's politics argue that it is not there.
> >
> > While a number of others know it's there but disagree
> > with it.
> >
> >> Socialism is, when it comes
> >> down to it, a process of pretending that the World
> is
> >> different from the way it actually is.
> >
> > There are lots of -isms and -ities in that category.
> >
> > Jerry Friedman
> >
> >
> >
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