(urth) The Devil in a Forest
Jerry Friedman
jerry_friedman at yahoo.com
Tue May 19 13:28:29 PDT 2009
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, brunians at brunians.org <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
> > I'm grateful for this discussion, because when I read
> tDiaF I thought it
> > was just a quaint, but obvious, morality tale. Now, I
> realize that it isn't
> > so "on the nose" at all. It's actually a quite
> exquisite bit of propaganda
> > (unlike say "Atlas Shrugged"). Truly masterful
> propaganda is one where the
> > audience doesn't realize it's being propagandized.
>
> Really good propaganda will have people denying that it is
> propaganda.
It depends on what you mean by "good". I suppose you could
say that a really "good" thief or murderer doesn't get
caught, but I think the quotation marks are appropriate.
Some propaganda helps bring about many deaths. The
kind that people are describing in /The Devil in a Forest/
(which I haven't read) is presumably far less harmful, but
I still prefer political arguments with the cards on the
table.
> I find it very interesting that many of the people who
> disagree with
> Wolfe's politics argue that it is not there.
While a number of others know it's there but disagree
with it.
> Socialism is, when it comes
> down to it, a process of pretending that the World is
> different from the way it actually is.
There are lots of -isms and -ities in that category.
Jerry Friedman
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