(urth) The Devil in a Forest

brunians at brunians.org brunians at brunians.org
Tue May 19 11:22:14 PDT 2009


Socialism is criminal.

Socialism is the idea that theft is OK if it's done by the government.

The difference between war and socialism is that war is sometimes necessary.




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> It's not a question of not seeing it---it's a question of seeing something
> else that is much more interesting. Wat's crimes are only one form of the
> corrupting nature of groups and thus the corruptable nature of humans.
> They are primarily criminal and only superficially socialistic, and thus
> can't really be held up as representative of socialism. They are
> representative of something, but, rather, they are an example of how men
> can be corrupted by the offering of group anonymity and free lunches.
>
> Is war any different? Wolfe asks this question all the time. War is also
> an impersonal transaction between groups in which no individual need feel
> personally responsible.
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> From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at gmail.com>
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>> > I think there is more to it than just how sneaky his propaganda is.
>> Sure,
>> > Wolfe is propagandizing, as always---but he doesn't just
>> >propagandize for a narrow segment of the political spectrum,
>> >and he rarely makes things as black and white and baldly
>> >allegorical as you seem to suggest.
>>
>
> Well, I'm really only referring to this one work as libertarian/liberal
> propaganda. When I said "Wat/Robin Hood is an interesting exemplar of the
> corrupting nature of socialism", I wasn't trying to stake a flag in the
> name
> of John Stuart Mill. I thought it was mildly obvious. If you don't see it
> even when pointed out, then that's kudos to Wolfe. Silk's explanation of
> why
> he doesn't collect everyone's weapons is also propaganda, but not so
> artfully done. Way too obvious.
>
> On the other hand, James Jordan is correct when he says that Wolfe is a
> master propagandizer of Christian principles. Still, one could reasonably
> say the same of him regarding Gnosticism. Is the Sun Cycle to Gnosticism
> what The Chronicles of Narnia are orthodox Christianity?
>
> J.
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