(urth) BSG Spoiler vs Wolfe

Chris P rasputin_ at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 24 14:51:26 PDT 2009

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:10 AM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:

Enamel: In BSG people have (and don't have) sex for

all sorts of human reasons, and have all sorts of

human reactions. In Wolfe people apparently have

sex to show what bad people they are, and suffer for it later.

Wynn: That's ridiculous. Do you really intend to compare the

writing of BSG to Wolfe in favor of BSG?

Enamel: Yup.  In the case of male-female sexual relationships,

BSG beats the pants off of Wolfe.  The motivations of the

people involved and the effects the relationships have on

them in BSG are more interesting and realistic than what

Wolfe has shown.

Wolfe doesn't typically set his scenes in "naturalistic" settings so I think you are comparing things that don't map. 
TB: BSG is hardly naturalistic.  Sci-fi (even the pulp sci-fi Wolfe uses for his own ends) is still about people, what happens to them, and how they deal with it.

This sort of evades the point. Of course these are fantastic settings. It is the characters themselves that are more ordinary, and have more ordinary motivations, than the Wolfean characters you're trying to compare them to. And the more "ordinary" characters that Wolfe writes about are generally in the short stories, which you for some reason are explicitly excluding from comparison.

Even amongst the characters you do bring up, Latro for example at BEST provides no support for your main contention, and may show the exact opposite.

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