(urth) Babbie

Son of Witz sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org
Thu Mar 19 09:13:24 PDT 2009

I wonder if Three Horns should be taken literally.
Literal reading leads us to Babbie as the resolution.
Not sure what to call Wynn's reading, but that leads us away from Babbie, into the idea that the Horns are just a stand in for Souls or Psyches, which is an idea that has some resonance to me.
Could we also read "Horns" as "Whorls" I just thought of this now. He's certainly rode three whorls. Horn, as a sort of hybrid, becomes a beast (especially if he's a Neighbor) who has a soul from Blue(Neighbor), a soul from The Whorl Starcrosser (Silk) and a soul from the Red Sun Whorl (Typhon/Pas)  Something like that.  I'm not trying to stand behind this idea, just throwing it out there as I think it.

The seeming death in the pit is problematic.  But isn't it just as feasible to think that it took those three days for the Neighbors to heal Horn?  I mean, Babbie and Seawrack's assumption that he was dead isn't much to go on. Seawrack is naive, and what the hell does Babbie know? She doesn't say,"It looked like you were broken." I imagine this naive humanoid and this animal sitting at the pit, unable/unwilling to climb down, watching Horn not move for several hours, and made an assumption.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Wynn [mailto:crushtv at gmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 08:47 AM
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>Subject: Re: (urth) Babbie
>>Or Horn's soul--the actual soul of the honest-to-goodness
>>Horn goes into Babbie, who has two horns already, making three.
>An even simpler explanation that doesn't contradict Raja/Horn/greenbuck is 
>to say that Babbie was becoming Horn via an innate psychic ability to merge 
>his personality to a human being. That seems to be going on. But I just 
>didn't think that was the pay-off I was expecting in the prophecy.
>>I also tend to think, though, that Silk is a powered-up clone of
>>Typhon rather than Typhon's biological son with "Kypris" or a clone of that 
>There's lots of narrative and thematic reasons to like that. I certainly 
>did. The Mommy references are between Silk and Kyris are sooo compelling to 
>me, though. This is not an impediment in itself. It is just like Typhon to 
>have the original Kypris implanted with a clone of himself.
>However, my acceptance of Silk=Typhon explanation died by a thousand pin 
>pricks. One of those was this: How does this get me to Horn riding a beast 
>with three horns? Okay, Silk is Typhon. So who is Horn. Not Typhon. Could 
>Horn be possessed by Pas? That makes Silk and Horn the same, but it seems to 
>me it ends up making Horn ride a beast with three Typhons instead of Horns. 
>You probably think I've done something similar to this already. I can't 
>emphatically refute that. But this is just a Bridge Too Far.
>Have you seen "The Lost Room"? I often identify myself with all those crazy 
>object seekers with their Object Diagrams.
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