(urth) Hut in the Jungle
Son of Witz
sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org
Wed Mar 18 23:16:31 PDT 2009
On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
> --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:
>> On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>
>>> On the subject of one time influencing an earlier time,
>>> I think Christian thinkers have said or speculated that
>>> the Incarnation had consequences in its past. And it's
>>> no harder, possibly easier to accept than time travel.
>>
>>
>> See Baldandars/Frankenstein discussion in this thread.
>
> That's what I was talking about. My comment on Jesus
> caused you to make a similar comment a little earlier.
>
> Jerry Friedman
laughing out loud. good work Jerry.
On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Craig Brewer wrote:
>
> Or another way to put it would be that some myths are true only in
> the future. They make themselves true by projecting pseudo-false
> stories about themselves in the past which help bring about their
> realization. That would be Severian, yes?
>
> And on that reading, Talos realizing that his situation is what
> Prometheus was really all about is significant in the text because
> it's a smaller example of your Amphisbaena where the REAL meaningful
> Amphisbaena's are the cosmic myths which are lies (in the past) that
> make themselves become true (in the future).
>
> Is that right? If so, then I can retract my underwhelming.
>
> Oh, and: Gee Whiz. Gene Wolfe. Coincidence?
Yes on the first paragraph. absolutely.
Not Sure on the second paragraph about the "real meaningful
Amphisbaena" I haven't completely grokked the explanation about the
dead head eating the living head and the sustenance, or was it the
other way around. Whichever it was, I would probably weight them
equally.
On the third, retract away.
On the fourth, LOL.
~witz
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